This is why I don’t trust the voting rights bill.

This is why I don’t trust the democrats voting rights bill.

1- the party that used the NSA programs to spy on them candidate Trump and unmask his campaign, then make a fake dossier paid for by them, now somehow wants the ability to force so called fairness in state elections…. Right…. The John Lewis voting rights bill is trying to restore a part of the 1965 voting rights act that was struck down by the Supreme Court that says if states want to change their voting laws it must first go through the federal government for approval. This approval is not based on constitutional approval but the approval of what the current administration deems to be fair.

2- this administration has shown they care nothing for fair. They have been shot down in court and challenged more than any other administration I know of for guess what… you called it, discrimination. Why would you trust people actively discriminating at a federal level with health, farming aid, and school programs to not discriminate in an election? This idea is complete asinine

3- the freedom to vote act is crazy over bearing and actually seeks to put the pandemic voting rules in place indefinitely. Things like drop boxes which one judge ruled to be unconstitutional in the state of Pennsylvania due to their state constitution.

it aims to extend early voting by two weeks which clearly ignores the dates set by the constitution. And would give would be forgeries to have more time to perfect their forged ballots.

Voting by mail with no excuses. Some states require mail in votes to have an excuse. This is another pandemic rule they’re seeking to extend. I’m opposed to this because of two reasons. If you’re too lazy to get up and vote you shouldn’t be voting in my opinion. I’m not a fan of giving the lazy a voice. Secondly the excuse system works. It’s not hard and I have done it. All you have to do is say you will be working at that time (which is my case cause I work out of state), or something of that nature. The current way doesn’t restrict anyone.


They also seek to require that states that require IDs for voting would have to broaden the types of identification they accept. States would have to offer same-day voting registration and online registration and also make it easier to register at places like departments of motor vehicles…. Unless they come up with a system that determines a criminal is trying to get this same day registration they will effectively be allowing ex-felons to vote. So I’m apposed to this as well.

making it easier to register to vote at a DMV I’m completely okay with. But same day is a no.


The major reason I’m opposed to this is it’s partisan. They are having a hard time getting their whole party to jump on board little lone seeking a bipartisan measure. This bill is clearly designed for a one party rule and I oppose it full heartedly.

 

There is only one reason to oppose making Election Day a federal holiday.

There is only one reason to oppose allowing everyone to apply for a mail ballot.

There is only one reason to oppose early voting.

.....and that is to suppress the number of people who vote.

 

The Dirty Donald dossier was commissioned by the Washington Free Bacon right wing publication ,shopped round to GOP opponents of Dirty Donald in the GOP primaries, before going to the Clinton campaign.

 

Making Election Day a federal holiday only allows state and federal employees to have it off. These employees of the state almost always vote democrat. This bill is designed for a one party rule which is exactly why it only has a one party support.

 

Under Section 5, any change with respect to voting in a covered jurisdiction -- or any political subunit within it -- cannot legally be enforced unless and until the jurisdiction first obtains the requisite determination by the United States District Court for the District of Columbia or makes a submission to the Attorney General. This requires proof that the proposed voting change does not deny or abridge the right to vote on account of race, color, or membership in a language minority group. If the jurisdiction is unable to prove the absence of such discrimination, the District Court denies the requested judgment, or in the case of administrative submissions, the Attorney General objects to the change, and it remains legally unenforceable.
https://www.justice.gov/crt/about-section-5-voting-rights-act

 

so allowing early voting and allowing everyone to apply for a mail ballot, doesn't help the general public?

sounds like you support suppressing voter turnout

 

Who done the unmasking? Who paid for it and forwarded it to the FBI? This bill just further makes the claim that democrats and the elites want to control every aspect of an election in a one party rules fashion.

 

The left doesn't even know how dumb this is and its their own bill.
Did they think that no Republican would ever be president ever again in history? Are they really that dumb?
They don't think Republicans would take advantage of such a bill once they are in office?

Reminds me of the stupidity Democrats pulled during Obama when they couldn't get their lofty left wing judges appointed to state courts. So what did they do?
They changed the Senate approval vote for confirmation from 60 votes to 50. And what was the result of this idiocy?
Kavanaugh, Gorsuch, and Bennett all confirmed with 51 votes. (not that I am complaining) but they have no one to blame but themselves.

Thats how dumb they really are. They have absolutely no foresight what so ever. And these are the people the left votes into office.

 

Draw your conclusion however you want. I don’t support the lazy voting to suppress my pay check turnout.

 

so all US citizens who want mail voting and early voting, are just lazy?

WOW

have you seen the 5 hour long lines some people have to wait on to vote???????????

you cool with that????

 

No which is why the by request system works

 

many states do not allow all citizens to request a mail ballot.

this needs to change. If you prefer to vote by mail, it should be your right.

 

So its all done because only a Republican could possibly abide by voting rules as only Democrats can't possibly figure things out?

 

so you're ok with your fellow citizens having to wait on 5 hour lines in the cold to vote?

why not let them choose to request a mail ballot?

 

The constitution doesn’t say what is your right by mail in vote. It does give a date which I believe makes mail in voting unconstitutional.

 

Sorry, I have never even heard of 5 hour long waits to vote. And even if its true, my guess would be thats what you get for waiting until the last minute to vote.

I have never waited longer than 10 minutes to vote anywhere in over 40 years of voting in 8 different states.

Because its easy to forge. Did we not learn anything from the results found in Arizona ballots? Did we not find ballots on the side of the road, in garbage cans, or allowing people to just go pick them up and deliver them?

Why should voting be so easy? Do you not want election integrity? Voter ID verifying the person voting? You demand it for anything and everything else, except for voting?
Why would you do that?

 

Because that's a good thing.

 

I wish they only allowed people with jobs and retired folks to vote, I wouldn’t mind seeing a law that restricts people from voting if they had a net gain in taxes as well. People who vote for free money shouldn’t be voting. They onbviously don’t care about my paycheck so why should I care about theirs.

 

Nope. But it does standardize some election rules so that things like this can't happen.

A Waukesha County judge has ruled that absentee ballot drop boxes are not allowed under Wisconsin law, a ruling that could potentially remove an option for voting ahead of the state's crucial midterm elections.

Ruling from the bench Thursday, Circuit Court Judge Michael Bohren ordered the Wisconsin Elections Commission to rescind its guidance to clerks on how to use the drop boxes, saying the WEC had exceeded its authority when it issued the recommendations.

"In looking at the statutes, there is no specific authorization for drop boxes," Bohren said.
https://www.npr.org/2022/01/13/1072...llot-drop-boxes-are-not-allowed-under-state-l

 

Should we also only allow white men to vote?

 

So your point is we need to make it difficult for those who would vote for the other party. Isn't that voter suppression?

Perhaps if everyone were willing to talk about making voting laws better things like voter ids could be put on the table by one side and assuring legal voters the right to vote by mail by the others. That might lead to a disscussion about creating a fair and trustworthy voting system.

 

Did you read any part of my post to mention race? You must have some sort of liberal magic that allows you to read things that aren’t there.

 

I think a fair and trustworthy voting system would exclude those who made a net gain on taxes. They’re not being taxed so they don’t deserve representation

 

Do us all a favor and educate yourself........which will likely allay some of your fears.

Debunking False Claims About the John Lewis Voting Rights Act
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-w...lse-claims-about-john-lewis-voting-rights-act

 

NSA programs allowed by the Patriot Act that Bush 2 scared the country into. Allowing spying on Americans to be legal in some cases?

If one is going to hold election day on 1 single day, there better be enough workers and polling places to handle 155M people all across the USA.
If not, other alternatives need to happen so it doesn't take an entire day to place a vote.

EDIT:
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Section. 4.
The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators.

The Congress shall assemble at least once in every Year, and such Meeting shall be on the first Monday in December, unless they shall by Law appoint a different Day.
The Constitution of the United States: A Transcription | National Archives