EU threatens banning Twitter after Elon Musk buys it

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  1. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Maybe that's the wrong way to look at it I suppose. They don't think about things. I mean we see here on a daily basis that their critical thinking skills are nil.

    It's more they're told what to think, and they don't question it.

    Fauci: You don't need to wear a mask.

    Leftists: We don't need to wear a mask.

    Fauci: You need to wear a mask or we all die.

    Leftists: We need to wear a mask or we will all die.

    It's freaky.
     
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  2. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    No, that's Vegas, or some parts of California.

    It's only legal in NY if you're a State Legislator
     
  3. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    No, not hate speech, just wrong.
     
  4. Pycckia

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    What about Swedes who complain about Muslim immigrants ruining the country? Hate speech?
     
  5. jcarlilesiu

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    Your version of hate speech verse somebody else's is likely drastically different. That's why Freedom of Speech is so important.

    Have you not learned about history?
     
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    "Hate speech" will apply to political speech.

    If conservatives got to draft their own ridiculous "hate speech" laws, then half the progressives in this forum could be arrested for what they have posted.
    (Hatred against the fetus, hatred against Christians, hatred against Conservatives, hatred against Trump, hatred against gun owners, hatred against opponents of transgender stuff, etc)

    Not only that, but as we have already seen in other countries that have implemented this crap, all sorts of things could be interpreted as "hate speech" that are not really hate speech.
    The intentional idea seems to be to force the other side to dance on their toes and avoid certain topics.
     
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  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    It's not hatred to correct somebody who's wrong

    Can you give us some examples of the abuses you're referring to? Since we've all seen them
     
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    You're free to do that in open debate.

    Arresting people because you disagree with what they're saying, and can't convince them with words, is just brutalism.

    You think it's all great, as long as it's not your side they are going after?
     
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    Kyle Rittenhouse.

    The fact that he was subjected to a trial for what was clearly self defense was a politically-motivated hatchet job, and a miscarriage of justice.

    Nick Sandman was another innocent victim of politically-motivated leftist abuse. He never even opened his mouth, and the leftist press smeared him as the perpetrator of a hate crime.
     
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  10. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Who's arresting anybody?

    Can you give any examples of where this has happened in the USA?
     
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    So you want to pass a law, but claim no one will be threatened with arrest?

    I think you're either not thinking this all the way through, or being dishonestly disingenuous.
     
  12. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    What are they saying? Are they "complaining" or are they saying that all the Muslims are rapists and murderers.

    Is this what you want to be able to do? to say hateful things about others with impunity?
     
  13. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    What law is being proposed?
     
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    What are liberals so threatened by the First Amendment? Maybe liberals should propose to repeal both the First and Second Amendment.
     
  15. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Who is saying we're threatened? Who's proposing to repeal the FIRST Amendment? (NOT the second, COMPLETELY separate discussion PLEASE)
     
  16. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    What do you think hate speech is then?
     
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    No, because Trump was and is an idiot, liar, puppet of Putin, criminal and the worst person and President where I will make party when he dies, hopefully in near future!

    And this statement of Germany funded invasion of Ukraine is also a pure lie too ...
    When was North Stream 1 and 2 agreed and started again? At a time when Putin did nothing bad at all and sorry to say and use a term of this dumbass with his silly red MAGA cap:

    Germany first! Then nothing and after a longer time others! We have our own interests and we stand on our own interests as the US and all others do too.
    And to be honest ... that Putin invaded now Ukraine is mostly not Germanys guilt, but that of the USA! It was the USA who transformed Russia under Putin from a serious potential partner into an enemy with their lousy politics since Bush Jr.

    Remember the anti-missile shield placed by Bush in Poland and Romania? What did this war criminal US President told in interview about? It is against the evil Iranian and North Korean missiles which threat Europe!
    A 150% lie, because both had no misisles with such a range at this time and everyone knows that they were placed towards Russia! The problem is only ... what did Russia so evil to make this step please? The answer is nothing, totally nothing evil!

    And don't bother with Poland and their constant hatred and paranoia of Russia since World War II. For Poles, Russia has always been and always will be the evil empire, no matter what Russia does.
    What was the actual reason for Poland's grumbling about North Stream? I can tell you, North Stream is in competition with the pipeline that goes from Russia through Poland... the very pipeline that Gazprom has now shut down.
     
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    Well, in large parts of EU people don't speak English.
    So it's not exactly about blocking "illegal" American contents, but it's about impeding that EU citizens begin to use Twitter in a way which is against EU rules.
    I'm among the few Italians who are active on English sites [Italians pretend to speak English and it happens that we pretend so well that foreigners think that we speak English for real!:cool:].
     
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    Trump was right.

    Germany funded the invasion of Ukraine.
     
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    The EU stated that there are "rules for online platforms to tackle illegal content", it didn't threaten to ban Twitter.
     
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    Hate speech is so subjective it really means nothing.

    Trying to limit such a subjective issue is precisely the problem and why freedom of speech, Eben that deemed hate, is so important.
     
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    So you just want to be able to say anything to anyone? You look on what is possibly the most significant invention in the history of mankind as nothing more than your vehicle to vent your vitriol onto a long-suffering humanity?

    Safe behind your keyboard and anonymous avatar.. Internet Tough Guy. Right?
     
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    If Elon is going to authenticate human users for real ... he's going to kill Twitter.
    Mods exist to spot multi-accounting. Probably he wants to save money renouncing to a lot of mods.

    But this would be the minor problem. Internet is the realm of fake identities [we all dream to be someone else, and Elon dreams the same].
    So ... my prediction is that Twitter is going to die.
     
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    Some fake news site gins up a controversy using a misleading headline and selective factual information coupled with extremist polemical hogwash. It gets shared to social media sites such as Facebook and Twitter or otherwise pushed out to people in an information silo. Then they repost it everywhere, including this forum.

    And here we are. The fake news site gets clicks and revenue for publishing a stupid fake news piece and people like us are stuck fighting like crabs in a bucket over a whole lot of nothing.
     
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    Of course. Don't you?
     

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