the great replacement

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  1. dairyair

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    I do not.
    For I care nothing about 500 yrs from now. Except the world/earth still exists.
    And as I was taught, when one borrows something, they should return it in as good as shape or better than when they borrowed. And since we are all just borrowing time and space on this planet, leave the little patch you hang around in the same or better than when you got here.

    For I won't know anything about the world 500 yrs from now, neither will any other person on this planet.

    I say you're trolling because one was in the context of the great replacement theory, IE the thread topic.
    Yours is completely off topic. A sign of trolling the thread.

    I say there's only 1 race the human race. And you interpret that as I care about skin color? LOL. More trolling.
     
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  2. kriman

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    In other words, you have no excuse for the democrat's lack of interest in all of those black people getting killed by black people.
     
  3. FatBack

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    It sounds like you borrowed and bastardize that from an American Indian.

    And it's also a poor excuse for not being able to see racism no matter which word you use.

    @MJ Davies

    Do you not see this blatant excuse for only seeing racism when it goes in One direction?

    Probably not, both of you only believe that racism applies if it comes from One direction and is directed at another.

    Huhh...

    When you accuse me of having stated that racism does not exist it seems that you were simply projecting your inability to see it where it exists.
     
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  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    He's stating simple fact, not a conspiracy. In particular, he's not saying that anyone is promoting immigration to increase it, which is a major tenet of the Great Replacement Conspiracy Theory
     
  5. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Nothing so advanced as that. A simple comparison of how many immigrants would have to come here in how much time to "replace" anyone should be enough to illustrate what I'm saying

    Since you are a statistician I will leave the actual figures to you as I am really no good at math at all.
     
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  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Indeed, it's a main and major cause of our prosperity and always was.
     
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    Except in the aftermath of the Great Depression and several decades after that.

    Democrats keep saying "wages have gone down", but they seem to be comparing that to the late 50s and 60s when migration was heavily restricted.
     
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    No. Society's obligation is to preserve a degree of order. To that end, hungar cannot be rampant because it causes society to destabilize (and become not a society anymore). But not everyone must be fed to maintain order.

    Feeding the hungry is on the other hand an individual moral obligation. If my neighbor is starving while I have extra, its not society's fault, its mine.
     
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  9. DaveBN

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    I don’t believe that the suffering of the people of a society should be left up to the good will of individuals. We’re a wealthy society and more than capable of ensuring our citizens do not go without, and as a bonus the people we lift from the gutter have the potential to go on to be productive members of society. We stand to gain so much with such a minor investment of resources.
     
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    Do you really need me to cite for you proof that some people vote for promises of free things like free food, free healthcare, free college tuition, free internet or free income?
     
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    modernpaladin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I dont disagree. Those are great reasons to feed the hungry. They are not good reasons to 'obligate' (force) others to help you feed the hungry.
     
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  12. DaveBN

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    I don’t see it as forcing anyone to take an action. The state collects taxes and uses it, ideally, in ways that benefit the whole of society. Ensuring that citizens, down to the individual level, do not go hungry, benefits society on the whole.

    Now, if you feel that taxes are theft and the government should not be able to take money to be spent on the interests of the state; well I think you’d agree we’ve approached a hurdle we’re not likely navigate together within this thread.
     
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    You seem to have equated 'benefit society' with 'benefit the state.' Was that intentional?

    Im not opposed to taxation in principle, Im opposed to empowering the state beyond necessity. The state should never 'benefit.' It should serve and nothing more.
     
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    Immigrants from Europe and other places did. The Native Americans had no say as they were being slaughtered off .

    About this Replacement theory.......concept. There is a new and silly theory arising almost every month.. Some folks simply have too much time on their hands. As if there are no REAL and SERIOUS problems to deal with.

    And "social" media is the perfect petri dish for spreading this kind of stuff............and influencing those that are easily "influenced"..


    What makes this country great is the fact it is home to all types of immigrants........but the problem seems to be that some think they are superior to others. Not the case. everyone is unique, different and contributes what he/she can by being that unique person. Those that believe they are superior ..........are easily threatened b y others

    No one knows what this country will look like in fifty years........... and it should not matter.......as appearances are superficial ... We should be more concerned about the character of the population as it is .......evolving..
     
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  15. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Doesn't this apply to everyone?
     
  16. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    All humans are of the same species. We breed and breed true, that is how species is defined.

    Mind, that doesn't mean we're all the same. Dogs are all wolves but show a remarkable variance
     
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    if the border is open, why must they beg?
     
  18. Aleksander Ulyanov

    Aleksander Ulyanov Well-Known Member

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    Balderfeathers. That's the Mein Kampf talking. There is no struggle of the races because races are a myth.


    I disagree. Slavery is wrong, no matter how much we may disguise it. Institutions in the end are just convenient constructs, only people really exist and people work best and hardest when they are well rewarded. Many of society's real evils manifest most egregiously when we expect human beings to work for free.
     
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    In an ideal system I would say the goals of the state should be closely aligned with the goals of society. What benefits one, benefits the other.
     
  20. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Yes, yes and yes. Otherwise it has no purpose and very well ought not to be, social infrastructure is as necessary and beneficial as physical.
     
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    Surely no one can be surprised by the fact the "great replacement" theory has been stoked by none other than Tucker Carlson.

    Click https://www.msnbc.com/all then, Buffalo gunman cited same racist ideology pushed by right-wing media

    to watch video of him doing just that.
     
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    In antiquity slavery required a surplus of people to function well. That's why it was so prevalent in Rome and sort of died out in the medieval world, even though it was still very widely practiced and almost universally approved of. We have a distorted view of slavery due to American chattel and the Nazis, where slavery became a sort of slow genocide. In the ancient world it was a way for uncountable thousands of people to survive and even have some relative comfort, though it was just as often unfeelingly brutal.
     
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    Do you believe it is "xenophobic" to be against illegal immigration..... The key word there is illegal.
     
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    To a certain extent, yes; specially if you're targeting certain nationals and/or you're saying the carry all the sins of the world.
     
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    There's nothing wrong with wanting people to simply follow our immigration laws. They don't give a damn about our immigration laws they come here in bad faith to begin with.

    How is that fair to the people that actually immigrated here properly? Screw those chumps right?
     

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