When you know the guy you voted for is guilty of a crime...

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  1. fmw

    fmw Well-Known Member

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    Are there any "overhanded" lawyers in the political arena? It seems to me that they are partisan on both sides.
     
  2. popscott

    popscott Well-Known Member Donor

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    Pick one out…. We’ll have a discussion…
    Showering with the daughter, releasing terrorists, Hunter and China connections… let’s see what you got…
     
  3. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    What has this to do with anything? For the record the only "underhanded" (whatever that means) lawyer ever working for Trump was Cohen and he was sent to prison after the fact.
     
  4. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not even Hillary???
     
  5. Hey Now

    Hey Now Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, well if denial and narcissisms were not psychological conditions, the shrinks would be few and far between.
     
  6. Vernan89188

    Vernan89188 Well-Known Member

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    Compared to the alternative which would have been Trump, iv got quite alot.
     
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    Bowerbird Well-Known Member

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    Not even Hillary. Btw let us know when you have anything on her
     
  8. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Right. You accuse me of having a "sympathy bias" towards corruption in politics. And the funny thing is that you might not even grasp how ridiculous that is. But this is actually an example of how desperate Trump supporters are becoming now that all their arguments to defend "The Leader" have come crumbling down.

    Again: I strongly suggest that you accept the facts instead of blindly following a criminal as your leader. You'll understand how much better if feels to be on the side of facts, rather than on the side of blind partisanship.
     
  9. trickyricky

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    How gracious of you to point out what WE need to do. I don't know WHAT we would do without your superior intellect to guide us through the turbulent state of American politics. We would be lost without the advantage of your instruction. Honestly, I don't see how you find the time do all the research you claim to do, and post as often as you do, AND keep your job........unless...:-o That IS your job!

    Ok, enough of that. It's redundant and obvious to anyone with a brain.

    Trump was, is and will always be, a blowhard egomaniac. I voted for him, because the choice was him, or Hillary. A "Hail Mary" is better than conceding to the other team with a minute left on the clock. These last 10 days have been the completion of that Hail Mary pass.

    I hope he is charged and convicted so that he can't run again. I despise him, now, and before he got into politics. A charge / conviction would pave the way for Desantis, who is younger, a REAL, conservative, more dynamic, can speak in complete sentences, and has a BRAIN. In other words, a complete nightmare to the left. Two terms by him would result in a 9-0 conservative Supreme Court.

    So PLEASE, continue educating people about Trumps crimes and misdemeanors, so that we can move on from him.........and your party will be regulated to minority for the foreseeable future.
     
  10. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I'm not sure about that. I think they do care. And they are feeling more and more desperate as all the arguments they have been instructed to use have come crumbling down. This desperation could take two forms. They can either accept the facts and move on. Or they completely detach themselves from reality. Those who will turn violent, when their "Idol" is sent to jail are the ones in the latter group. And that's where most extremists will be (or already are). But there are still a handful who might be open to accepting facts rather than political dogma.

    But I do think that ALL of them care. It's just that some will accept the facts, and the others will simply become more and more desperate.
     
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    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    And Giuliani. And the kraken lady. Underhanded and corrupt as ****.
     
  12. ToughTalk

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    I mean...HunterBiden's laptop calls you a hypocrite because you needed to get rid of the mean tweets. So we can just trash your opinion comfortably.

    And I haven't bothered with getting into the Clintons.
     
  13. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    Lots of parents have showered with their children; much more unusual is Trump's public admission that he wishes he could **** his own daughter. And, unlike Trump, Biden has never been accused of having sex with someone underage. Trump was the one who negotiated the release of thousands of Taliban soldiers. Hunter's "connections" to China were business related . . . which also applies to the Trump family. You're 0 for 3 here, bud.
     
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    Prove Trump said that about his daughter.

    Trump never had sex with anyone underage and you have no proof just more lying accusations.

    Biden’s surrendering the Bagram airbase in the middle of the night that released the very terrorist that turned around and went to kabul to kill 13 Americans and 170 civilians… he then was part of the drone strike on an innocent man and 7 children…

    Hunter’s china deal was directly related to crime boss Joe with an office key…. And now a voice recording.

    so you were just proved wrong on all three… you want to try to be proved wrong again?
     
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    0 for 4 now.
     
  16. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You can do whatever the hell you want. I'm just saying that the sooner you accept facts instead of dogma, the less stress you'll feel by the time your idol is sent to prison.
     
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    Well, he's gonna need them to break him out.
     
  18. yardmeat

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    Yes, he did.

    Interviewer: "What's the favorite thing you have in common with your father?"
    Ivanka: "Either real estate or golf."
    Donald: "Well, I was going to say sex, but I can't relate that to her.

    An attack perpetrated by the people that Trump released . . . and Trump PUBLICLY ADMITTED that he knew Afghanistan would fall to the Taliban after his surrender plan was complete.

    While there is no way in hell you'd still be a Trump supporter if you cared about trivial things like evidence and facts, I'm still going to ask for evidence.

    Sorry, bud, but everything I said is objectively true.
     
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    Well, for instance, the Director of the FBI explained one felony law she broke and testified to her lying under oath to a congressional committee. Then there was the destroying of subpoenaed evidence and that little matter of stealing white house silverware and china.
     
  20. yardmeat

    yardmeat Well-Known Member

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    The emails you are talking about were destroyed BEFORE the subpoena, and as part of a documented process. And I'd rather have someone steal silverware and china than steal boxes of classified documents.
     
  21. trickyricky

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    Thank you for allowing me to do whatever I want, that's mighty gracious of you.

    I see you follow the leftist playbook to a tee, respond to one sarcastic line or idea in a post and totally ignore the meat of it.

    "Trump was, is and will always be, a blowhard egomaniac. I voted for him, because the choice was him, or Hillary".
    This doesn't lend itself to the idea that I deny "facts" for dogma, that I'm stressed about the former President's legal troubles, or that Trump is my idol.

    "I hope he is charged and convicted so that he can't run again. I despise him, now, and before he got into politics. A charge / conviction would pave the way for Desantis, who is younger, a REAL, conservative, more dynamic, can speak in complete sentences, and has a BRAIN. In other words, a complete nightmare to the left. Two terms by him would result in a 9-0 conservative Supreme Court."

    In case you missed my original position.

    Carry on with your ravings, you don't fool anybody. Well, not many. There's always that simpleton who will swallow anything that gets posted on the internet. (Just make sure you cash the checks quickly).
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    So now you understand how this works. Once I get to the part where it becomes clear that the post is nonsense unrelated to the topic being discussed, I just stop reading. I mean... why waste any more time? Only reason would be to find something sarcastic to say for one's own amusement. But usually I just stop...

    I understand that this is part of the desperation you guys on the extreme right feel because you see your guy heading to jail.

    So... no need to explain yourself.

    Tip (something I learned from the pros): you might want to start posts with "the meat of it", so we don't get bored and stop reading too soon.
     
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    not sure if he's the only device you can ever think of to use as a deflection tool or if you just really enjoy talking about him...
     
  24. Vernan89188

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    Hmm, so the left are the ones who won't stop, even though they are the party that compromises everytime..I mean heck we should have full universal Healthcare if not for them compromising, yet the division isn't going away till everyone accepts authoritarian conservative politicians? No dice dude, learn to compromise like the left has done everytime we get voted in.

    There was no compromise with Trump stacking the bench, and now you guys are trying to gerrymander people in state positions once you abuse the Supreme Court ruling in your favor? You are so full of it your eyes are brown. Conservatives filibustered attempts to abolish gerrymandering cause they knew they had the SC bench stacked.
     
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  25. RodB

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    Thanks for explaining "underhanded." Now I understand it is any one with whom you differ.
     

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