When you know the guy you voted for is guilty of a crime...

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  1. MJ Davies

    MJ Davies Well-Known Member

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    It's probably better if you don't try to argue with those of us that have practiced law. My condolences on how painful your plight looks from this angle. OMFG. /ugh
     
  2. Bluesguy

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    Lack of rebuttal noted. Save you condolences for your family I have no need for them your painful attempt to use them notwithstanding.
     
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    Yes that is ALL it means, they paid for it and it belongs to them TO USE AS THEY SEE FIT. And they used it in interviews and statements in the public AS THEY SAW FIT. And if Manafort wanted to share it with his friend and colluge SO WHAT? The Russian government has it's own access to polling they can even go to RCP. And Manafort did not hide the fact he had a low level campaign employee actually email it to Manafort's buddy. NOTHING was charged about it so give it up.

    He doesn't do it directly, he announces it on TV, sends a signal to Putin. There is another video where he calls for help from China and Russia, but I can't find it. I did find this:

    Your video of Trump wasn't during the campaign get your videos straight. And YES we should have Russia release any information they have about payments to the Biden family don't ya think?????

    Spare me fired and humiliated Bolton and his claims.

    "Bolton, who was national security adviser from March 2018 to September, claims in his book that President Donald Trump personally asked Chinese leader Xi Jinping to help him win the 2020 US presidential election, according to a copy of the book obtained by CNN Wednesday.
    At a meeting during last year's G-20 Summit in Osaka, Japan, Bolton writes that Trump "stressed the importance of farmers and increased Chinese purchases of soybeans and wheat in the electoral outcome," adding that he "would print Trump's exact words, but the government's prepublication review process has decided otherwise."
    Asked about this, Mulvaney, who said he attended the Trump-Xi meeting, dismissed Bolton's description of what occurred as the former adviser putting "his whimsical spin on what actually happened at the meeting."
    Mulvaney said Trump did discuss China buying more US agriculture products, which he admitted would "be good for the country and thus good" for the President's reelection chances.
    "But to put those two factually true statements together to make it look like the President is begging China for inappropriate help, that's bizarre," he said.
    Mulvaney said neither he nor a dozen others who were at the meeting recalled anything inappropriate."
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/19/politics/mick-mulvaney-john-bolton-cnntv/index.html



    SHE PAID FOR IT, they solicited for it, they got it from a foreign national and then they used it. Even though it was fake. And they used their contacts at the FBI, DOJ, HSA and the MSM to facilitate the fake story.

    Why do you make the specious claim that it is over? The Sussmann trial was just a narrow techincal offense he got out of the way even though it was clearly a case of jury nullification. It spite of the verdict he clearly showed the Clinton campaign direct involvement and Clinton's approval of the scheme to present the false story.

    You don't know that. Let's get her under oath and start asking her what did you know and when did you know. It was HER campaing and those were HER campaign expenditures and HER campaign plans to use the fake information. Your claims that she was totally out of the loop and those people were spending millions without her approvals or knowledge is quite a claim here.

    Nope and it was the deputy's.

    And none about Russian collusion and no OOJ because he didn't have a case to present.

    Phony

    LOTS of people do business in Russia or with Russians SO WHAT?


    Manafort had nothing to do with the Russian dossier and the Dossier was FAKE. Even Steele admitted it was fake.

    You keep posting stories from years ago when the MSM was still trying to maintain it's credibilty. We now know different. And NO ONE has ever been charged with anything to do with it.
     
  4. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not according to GPS CEO Simpson's testimony. Her law firm hired them, and they (GPS) didn't even know that the law firm was her law firm until later. She had no knowledge of Steele until it the the Buzzfeed article. I can back that up. Can you back up your claim?
    It's been almost three years, and 3 low level indictments, one acquitted, and this is all he has to show for it. Sounds like a dud, to me. Look at what Mueller did in less time.
    Simpson testified to this. I'll find the link. I didn't make it up.
    A lot of people who admit:


    "In terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets," Donald Trump Jr.


    Do not run for President.

    That's what.
    Of course not, 1/6 is a bigger fish to fry than his gazillions of other crimes. Can't do them all.

    I saw Trump openly invite Russia and China to help him find dirt on Biden.

    Steele did not admit it was 'fake', he asserted it was 'raw intel', and if raw intel is 70% correct, it's pretty good intel. He's said that many times.

    It's most salient premise has proven true by the Mueller Report, that Russia interfered in the election to help Trump get elected.

    Fake means deception, that's not the Dossier.

    Look up the word 'fake'. In the Trumpian landscape, the term 'fake' is a thought - terminating cliché.

    Thought terminating clichés are non arguments.

    The very fact that you brain is infested with thought terminating clichés implanted by master mind manipulator Donald Trump destroys your credibility.

    Now pester someone else.
     
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    Excellent post.
     
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