Plentiful Arctic Ice Sept. 2021

As a Moderator at Watts Up With That? I have seen invitations given to a few people who strongly disagree with the blog on several climate related issues but they never respond to the offers to write a blog post.

There are a few AGW believers commenting various threads some who have been there for years still able to comment here today and others who post pure chronic one liner baloney still able to post there anyway.

 

The chart at POST 55 is based on the NSDIC data which YOU never addressed at all.

This one is from PIOMAS showing ZERO decline in the last 14 years.

 

the reaction of people to covid sure did

 

No, it didn't.

 

have you seen the world economy lately, the supply shortage? yes, the reaction to covid had a huge effect

 

None of that has any effect on Earth's temperature.

 

sure it does, less oil, less travel, less manufacturing, all had an effect

 

None of those things have any effect on Earth's temperature.

 

sure they did

 

Not at all. This is where you need to explain precisely how they do.

 

sure

"COVID-19 Lockdowns Reduced Ozone Pollution Over the Northern Hemisphere"

https://cires.colorado.edu/news/covid-19-lockdowns-reduced-ozone-pollution-over-northern-hemisphere

 

There is no such thing as "ozone pollution". Try again.

 

Ozone "pollution" isn't the Earth Temperature they are two separate things.

 

He should at least try to tell me that the sun's intensity has increased, or something that would actually have an effect on Earth's temperature.

 

it's one of many variables

 

slight difference, but still a difference, greenhouse gassed reduced, but did not go to zero

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/...sed-climate-emissions-but-theyre-rising-again

"Looking further ahead to 2030, simple climate models have estimated that global temperatures will only be around 0.01C lower as a result of Covid-19 than if countries followed the emissions pledges they already had in place at the height of the pandemic. These findings were later backed up by more complex model simulations."

 

A good year for ice.
Doomsday Climate Predictions Meltdown: Arctic Sea Ice Extent Reaches 12-Year Mid-August High
By P Gosselin on 12. August 2022

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According to Al Gore, based on statements and “science” from “leading climate experts”, the Arctic was supposed to be ice-free in the summer already years ago.

Now that the summer ice melt season in the Arctic will end soon, by the middle of next month, it’s a good time to see how Al Gore’s prediction is faring. To do this we look at the latest from data the National Snow and Ice Data Center (NSIDC):



Source: NSIDC Arctic Sea Ice Chart

Snowfan here zooms in on the chart for greater detail and reports that for this date, ice extent in the Arctic stands at a 12-year high:



It would be accurate to say that Al Gore’s prediction has turned out to be on par from what you’d expect from a swindling fortune teller reading tea leaves and a crystal ball.

 

Given the unexpected increase in solar activity this year, it may be too soon to call 2012 the bottom of the arctic sea ice cycle. But the clearly broken downtrend from the late 1970s to 2012 has conclusively refuted the notion that it was a secular trend due to increased CO2 rather than the down-phase of a natural cycle.

 

So much ice!
Arctic Ice at Decade-High Level: Can Doomsayers Explain?
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With ice coverage for July and August remaining above the 10-year average of 2010-20, the extent of summer sea ice in the Arctic has surprised experts who once predicted that…

 

Whenever that happens stories like this appear in the MSM:

https://weather.com/news/climate/vi...-bring-10-plus-inches-of-sea-level-rise-study

 

Arctic ice cover has been fairly stable since 2007 which means it isn't going down anymore but has yet to go back up to higher levels seen in the 1990's.

In any case little to no summer sea ice isn't a danger to the planet anyway as pointed out HERE LINK

 

Arctic ice is disappointingly robust for the alarmists.
Canadian Arctic Archipelago Blocked By Thick Multi-Year Ice…August Arctic Sea Ice Rebounds
By P Gosselin on 3. September 2022

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In terms of Arctic sea ice and hurricane activity this year, the climate ambulance chasers have been quiet.

Late summer Arctic ice has stopped shrinking



The DMI graph shows the size of sea ice areas in the Arctic in August from the beginning of satellite measurements in 1979 to 2022 (red line). The sea ice areas have grown in August 2022 compared to most previous years after 2006 and have a positive trend since 2007, 15 years ago. There is no summer ice melt in the Arctic as predicted by the climate disinformers John Kerry and Al Gore in 2009. They had predicted ice-free late summer Arctic already for the year 2014. Source: DMI plots Arctic ice cover with additions

The Arctic is not even passable for regular ships, let alone being ice-free:



At the end of August (left) and beginning of September 2022 (magnified right), the Northwest Passage in the Canadian Arctic erchipelago continues to be blocked by thick annual (green) or thick multi-year ice (brown). In the coming days, the end of summer ice melt will be reached and winter new ice formation will begin. Source: Canada Sea Ice Charts.

 

If I bought a stock that followed your DMI graph I would have lost money from 1980.

 

Then you should not have bought.

 

That is ok since this is actually above average for summer ice cover in the Polar region for the Interglacial period.