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Plentiful Arctic Ice Sept. 2021

Discussion in 'Environment & Conservation' started by Sunsettommy, Oct 2, 2021.

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  1. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Lots of government employees are not free to give interviews.
     
    Jack Hays, Jan 1, 2022
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    You are not nearly skeptical enough. ;-)
     
    Ddyad, Jan 2, 2022
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    You are twisting what I said about people interested in environmental issues that rarely post on this forum anymore. The majority never bullied anyone and were
    not climate alarmists. One person in particular was very knowledgeable about climate science and debated many of the climate change deniers but gave up
    after those deniers repeatedly were not able to defend their statements. That person never bullied anyone and was here only to rebut climate disinformation.
    That person left this forum shortly before you began posting here. Other people who never bullied anyone have left.

    I know what a serious debate on climate science looks like and that doesn't happen very often on political forums. Most of the people reading these posts lack
    the knowledge required to participate in a debate. The subject is too technically difficult for the vast majority to challenge your posts which are copied from
    climate change denialist blogs. I don't have any evidence that people are actually reading any of those posts because no one ever comments on the substance.

    Those interested in environmental issues leave the forum because it is almost entirely a source of misinformation.
     
    skepticalmike, Jan 2, 2022
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  4. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    It is a common propaganda tactic to label as misinformation contrary opinions or data incompatible with the preferred propaganda narrative.
    Another word for that propaganda tactic is bullying. Congratulations.
     
    Jack Hays, Jan 2, 2022
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    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

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    Jack Hays, Jan 5, 2022
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    The Arctic then and now.
    New Study: Arctic Was Much Warmer 6000 Years Ago… 90% Of Glaciers, Ice Caps Smaller Than Present Or Absent!
    By P Gosselin on 10. April 2022

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    Climate alarmists hate this inconvenient fact: hundreds of temperature reconstructions show that the northern hemisphere was much warmer over much of the past 10,000 years (Holocene) than it is today.

    HAT-TIP: Klimaschau here

    Massive 66 temperature reconstructions

    One recent study: Arctic glaciers and ice caps through the Holocene: a circumpolar synthesis of lake-based reconstructions by Laura J. Larocca and Yarrow Axford, published in the journal Climate of the Past, examined the Arctic ice cap and glaciers over a large part of the Arctic: . . . .
     
    Jack Hays, Apr 10, 2022
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    Covid did help some
     
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  8. Jack Hays

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    Arctic ice is doing fine.
    Arctic Sea Ice Stabilizes, No Trend Reduction In More Than 10 Years As Solar Cycle Starts Off Weakly
    By P Gosselin on 27. April 2022

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    By Die kalte Sonne

    The Copernicus program offers very interesting data on Arctic ice.

    While sea ice has been declining off the Greenland Sea (east of the island), the Chukchi Sea (eastern Siberia) shows a very different trend in sea ice extent over the past year. Such deviations have occurred repeatedly since the year 2000. . . .
     
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    Jack Hays, Apr 28, 2022
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    Yes it is and I am glad you admit it - pity you do not recognise how Watts& Co revel in doing this
     
    Bowerbird, Apr 28, 2022
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    Gee wonder what those red bars mean??

    upload_2022-4-28_18-2-1.png

    hoist on your own petard
     
    Bowerbird, Apr 28, 2022
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    "Watts & Co" regularly post opposing views. That never happens at the true believer AGW sites.
     
    Jack Hays, Apr 28, 2022
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    Well, no.
    "Overall, the 2021 extent was very close to the 1991-2020 mean and well above the lowest value in 2012 and also above what was recorded in the year 2020."
     
    Jack Hays, Apr 28, 2022
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    I blame public education that just never taught folks the value to critical thinking or reading comprehension... but then, for a fake narrative to take hold, it does rely on a lot of ignorance and just plain group think.....

    At this point, you'd think there would be places one could demand a refund.....
     
    drluggit, Apr 28, 2022
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    Troll army at work.
     
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    Lols!! And if we take a longer view instead of cherry picking the last couple of years? Btw you do know that sea ice is not a good measure of the health of the ice caps don’t you?
     
    Bowerbird, Apr 28, 2022
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    I tell you what - when you demonstrate that to me by analysing actual scientific reports I will give you not one, not two but FIVE GOLD STARS

    However I suspect my cache of gold stars will be safe
     
    Bowerbird, Apr 28, 2022
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    The sea ice hysteria has NEVER been based on anything but cherry picking, which is why the purported sea ice extent records always begin in the late 1970s, after the 30-year cooling phase of the 60-year ocean circulation cycle.
    You do know that when sea ice had been declining, your ilk screamed that it was a good measure of the health of the ice caps, don't you?
     
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    Doesn’t it? What you mean is you have never looked for disputed data

    Si which sites did not post “opposing data”
     
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    Do you want to link to some proof?
     
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  20. Jack Hays

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    The point was made, even if you don't like it.
     
    Jack Hays, Apr 29, 2022
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    RealClimate for one. The more pertinent question is whether you can find any of your AGW advocates giving any time to skeptics. I can post many AGW advocacy articles from WUWT.
     
    Jack Hays, Apr 29, 2022
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    Why, when everyone reading this already knows it's true, including you?
     
    bringiton, Apr 29, 2022
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    A virus has no effect on Earth's temperature.
     
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    They don't mean anything. Sea ice extent doesn't mean much of anything (as it doesn't measure depth), and what occurs during a particular year (or small number of years) doesn't really mean much of anything either.
     
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    What is "a longer view"?
     
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