Teen Carjacker Shot, Killed by Concealed Carry License-Holder on Chicago's South Side

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  1. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

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    Racks up as another gun death but this lady saved her life and ended the thief's. If our country can't get a handle on criminal violence, the public is figuring out it has to protect itself and even young women will. Guarantee the perps guns weren't legal and bought off the street. If the cops don't want to take the weapons from the criminals, law abiding citizens will start disarming them more and more.
    https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loc...icense-holder-on-chicagos-south-side/3009556/
     
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    Wish they would have survived after being incapacitated and later reformed, but sounds justified.
     
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    Good guys with a gun are still trailing at about a 100 to 1 ratio.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Given the fact of recidivism, what hope is there in reformation? It seems ill advised...
     
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    You want to give up on any kind of attempt to reform criminals? I disagree. Also, there are methods to reduce recidivism. One of the programs I've volunteered in has reduced recidivism rates by 80%. There are better solutions than sucking our thumbs and waving white flags.
     
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    Glad to see people overjoyed that a Black Person can actually possess a gun without being labeled a "Street Thug"...
    Glad to see that this instance of "Black-on-Black" Crime was thwarted...
    Although, the "thieves" didn't serm to be very street smart...
    They should have realized that a Black Woman sitting in a Car at 2:09AM in Calumet Heights (an area which is about 95% Black) would have some "back up"...
    So glad to see some many of the RW/2A Crowd expressing their rampant glee at this Woman defending herself...
    Isn't it GREAT to know THAT:
    A "Good Guy With a Gun" can sometimes be a Black Woman?
     
  7. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

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    Problem is they weren't waving white flags they were waving guns. When it's you vs them, you better shoot to kill.
     
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    Which is why I said the shooting sounded justified.
     
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    Not when you take out the killings where there wasn't a good guy with a gun.
    Did you want to factor in cops with guns as well.
     
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    Reform is largely a pipe dream for most.
     
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    That's because most good guys don't have guns and that makes them victims. Packing heat is a right, a right which the left regulates, restricts, taxes and criminalizes - if those same regulations, restrictions, taxes and criminalization applied to voting or illegal entry into this country the left would blow chunks,

    The part of the story in the OP that I find disturbing is the mention of the would be victim being a concealed carry license holder. Why does a person have to jump through insane hoops and be licensed to protect their own life? For Christ's sake, this is Chicago, a hideously dangerous city where the lack of self defense and liberal policies of being soft on crime makes everyone a potential victim. What if she wasn't a licensed holder, would she now be a criminal for protecting her life?

    The story doesn't say if she'll be charged or not. I'm sure the anti 2A people will argue that a car isn't as important as a life and the woman should be sent to prison for life and then some.

    And the really odd thing about this story is how it's focused on a licensed holder and not the insane amount of crime in Chicago and other lib cities which forced her to get a gun in the first place.
     
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    :roflol:
    I Seriously DOUBT That anyone would "argue" that....
    HOWEVER: If (and When) there is a Reiable "News" Story about anybody arguing that:
    "the woman should be sent to prison for life"
    Please don't hesitate to bring to to everyone's attention...
    Thx in advance...:flagus:
     
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    Kyle Rittenhouse. Or does skin color matter when it comes to self defense. Why the double standard or do you take the side of criminal activity based on political affiliation?

    Clarify.
     
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    Sad story. I would rather be sad for the misguided youth that made a fatal mistake than for the victim.
     
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    Ok. I don't think I advocated the sucking thumbs thing, but sure. If we can change the trajectory of folks who fall into crime, it is a worthwhile effort. I just don't want us to forget the purpose of punishment for criminality though. And yes, crime needs to be punished. not ignored, which seems to be the liberal pleading at the moment.
     
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    Being New Jersey born and bred, the word 'guy' is not gender specific. A 'Good Guy' can be any color, and gender, any age. The fact that you feel it necessary to highlight the identity flag says it matters a great deal to you.

    I think it's fine that they defended themselves. I don't care about any of the other things you are so attached to.
     
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    So how do you reform bad behavior, murder, theft to name a few of the top tier crimes? I'm guessing, the only thing the DNC know how to do, throw tax dollars at it, to no avail!
     
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    And where did you see the word black in the OP? Looks like you are the one bringing race into it ;)
     
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    Count the DGUs and try again.
     
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    Whats your source on that? Does it take into account all the crime thats prevented when a criminal decides not to engage, for fear their victim is or might be armed?
     
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    Well the difference is easy to spot. Rittenhouse appeared to be looking for a fight and found one. Ultimately, he defended himself, but he was went there with a weapon to protect property. That's not the same as being an innocent victim just doing their daily life and getting attacked.
     
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    We have more than 300 million firearms owned by private citizens in this country. And that still has not stopped any crime whatsoever. We have traffic laws, gun laws, robbery laws, homicide laws, etc. Or do you think we should get back to the "wild, wild west" that you have seen on TV and the movies?
     
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    You've reduced recidivism for violent offenders by 80%? I'd love to hear more about that.

    More than likely you're just talking about petty criminals that stole a bike or something.
     
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    It stopped a crime in the thread you're in, so there goes that nonsense.
     
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    Carrying a firearm and putting out fires doesn't make you "looking for a fight".

    Why he was there is irrelevant.

    Unless you'd like to suggest drunk women in bars wearing mini-skirts are looking for rape.
     
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