Are we all clear now that Trump is a criminal?

I think its been clear for a very long time that Trump is a criminal, and so is his family.

The problem is this.

His supporters simply do not care in any way what so ever.

Trump was right when he said he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Ave, and he wouldnt loose any supporters.


Its no longer a political party. Its a cult.

 

Uh huh yeah in the days when the upper echelons of the fbi is little more than the hand maids of an increasingly corrupt and venal DC establishment their conclusions are not only irrelevant they are almost certainly white wash.

 

And with the same mental prowess that we're using to determine in advance that Trump is a criminal, we can easily apply the same ability to see that Joe Biden is not one bit better or less criminal!

Think about it, one guy sticks classified documents in a storage room near his liquor cabinet, and the other guy has them in boxes in the garage where he parks his Corvette. Why should either of these people be in the White House?

 

Obviously, of his rights aren't violated.

Now, under what circumstances would you call Trump's prosecution unconstitutional?

 

But, Biden storing top secret docs in his garage is ok by you? Zero threat to national security?

 

Not a no. Equal treatment for equal acts.

You've not listed criminal acts.

 

He returned them.
Just like pence did.

 

my take on all this as an outside viewer (uk) is trump does appear guilty. saying that i also believe if biden, clinton or anyone has committed crimes then all should be held to the same level of law - regardless of political standing. here in the UK Boris lost his post for flaunting the law and most people on all sides supported it as what he did was wrong. I'm not a beliver that anyone is above a countries laws no matter how much their supporters support them. Many politicians (if not the majority) are corrupt to some level - but if they get differential treatment to me in a similar situation, then I would have to disagree wholeheartedly. Still... lets see what happens, stay calm, and with luck all of these shysters and hucksters will get their day in court as well

 

FBI Director is a trump implant.

 

Are we all clear now this thread is complete BS?

 

You're still doing it. Conflating the terms "evidence" with "proof".
I don't think anything "proven" yet, other than that Biden should be impeached for sucking at the job. But, for instance, the Hunter Biden laptop is substantial evidence. Combined with the testimony of others (Tony Bababalinski [SP]) and you have a compelling case that Biden regularly engaged in criminal influence peddling. He betrayed and sold out the USA regularly and often. Add to that how hard the deep state has been covering for him. Biden lied to us. It was bad enough that 50 important, even top intelligence agents of the US signed a document implying that the laptop should be ignored as having all the earmarks of Russian disinformation, Biden lied, on stage in the debate, stating they said the laptop is "garbage". He knew for a fact it was not. And the 50 signatories didn't say that.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/v..._laptop_biden_dismisses_as_russian_plant.html

And now we have an informant stating he took a $5 million bribe from a foreign power.

This is all evidence. I'm sure it is all true but, we'll only find out the truth of it if the Deep State decides it needs to get rid of Biden. That someone informed on him that he had documents may have been a warning salvo to exit 2024. But if he does, who leads the Democratic Party then?

 

Biden and Pence immediately returned all classified documents that were discovered to be in their possession.

That is why not even the political enemies of either can contrive any charges against them.

A number of prominent Republicans have acknowledged that Trump has screwed himself.

Former Vice President Mike Pence raised concerns that the conduct alleged in federal charges against Trump
harmed national security and put soldiers at risk, in his latest reaction to the case against his old running mate.

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"This indictment contains serious charges and I cannot defend what is alleged," Pence said


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[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...t-i-cannot-defend-what-is-alleged/ar-AA1cxNkK]​

 

So, for you, bribery isn't a crime?

 

How many times do you think Joe parked his corvette by the boxes of classified documents and walked by them. Immediately turned them over? I think not. I think he was advised to do so before the committee investigation surrounding him closed in on him. In other words, he found a way to engage in plausible deniability. Make it look like he didn't know he had them.

 

Which only addresses the first point, and of course, we still don't have all of Biden's docs back, do we? Do you feel like he's obstructing justice yet? And if not, why?

 

And the minute your unsubstantiated theories based on emotion rather than evidence become relevant, we will let you know.

 

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I'm really not interested in what you think you know. Don't waste your time, for my benefit.

 

trump has been at least a low-level criminal for decades, its called being a new york businessman, and since trump had many russian business conections stretching back those decades, only a fool would think he never attempted conning some russians along the way (his M.O.)

 

It does seem like "immediately" is hyperbolic. It certainly looks like the Nation Archives folks had to really work at it to even get a sample of the documents that Joe had kept. As for Pence, who cares, he isn't credible or electable. He for sure is a bang the drum for war guy. So, perhaps that's what keeps him credible.

 

What actions are the Republican-controlled House taking against Biden and Pence based upon the classified documents they returned?

 

I understand that you find the concept of evidence to be a waste of time.

 

Biden and Pence had NO IDEA that they were in possession of classified material? None at all?

You really believe that. Don't you?

 

That's the DOJ's job.

 

NARA had not requested the documents. The feds had not subpoenaed the documents. Biden's lawyers found them and handed them over. They didn't pull a Trump and ignore requests, violate subpoenas, and lie about having them.