UFO hearing key takeaways: What a whistleblower told Congress about UAP

yes, I have seen plenty of that, in sci fi films and TV shows galore. It is a constant theme. Logic and reasoning aside, there really is no evidence, not even under hypnosis which can be manipulated enough if someone truly believes what they say. It is why it is never used in court or polygraph tests.

 

If we were to take each member of Congress and stuff each one in a steel 55 gallon barrel, fill the remaining space in the barrel with lead shot, and then any remaining space with liquid mercury, seal the barrel lid with a band closure, and throw the barrels into Lake Okeechobee, I wouldn’t trust Congress to “get to the bottom” of the lake.

How would my life change tomorrow if today I found out the government has been hiding alien bodies or UFOs?

 

Thanks for the double down. You aren't aware that you post internet links with government information as back up for your opinions? You do it often. Dems? KKK? who is wandering all over the place in Trumpian fashion?

 

Again, you are bringing up aliens.


How did people's lives change after we figured out how to produce electricity?

 

The navy tapes clearly show that highly trained pilots can report events such as these with all honesty, yet not get it right.

The "go fast" tape is one of the clearest indications of this. The information seen on the pilot's instruments shows that the object was moving slowly, not rapidly as it appeared to the pilot. I have NO DOUBT that the pilot was reporting in all honesty.

From the vid, one can see that the object APPEARS to move fast from the pilot's perspective, even though the instruments show that it is not.

 

There is more evidence that just the videos. The pilots saw things with their own eyes.

Explaining an alternate possibility of the video doesn't debunk the encounter.

There were things on radar. The speeds aren't dependent on a video analysis.

 

Again, I don't agree with your two options being the only options.

The pilots reported what they saw in all truthfulness. I see NO reason to doubt them.

But, that doesn't mean there are aliens. The claims of aliens come from misinterpretation of the evidence.

 

OK, I don't know how anthropomorphism plays a role.

It's true that our detection of the electromagnetic spectrum has serious limitations as I've pointed out. Given those limitations, what tends to get looked for are spectra that indicate elements or combinations of elements that rarely occur naturally in planets such as those being examined.

I wouldn't call that anthropomorphic. But, I'd be interested in hearing your views on this.

I agree that our sample is minute. Also, our ability to confirm evidence on an exoplanet is severely limited - as science tends to want confirmation. For example, the very existence of an exoplanet needs to be detected by more than one method, which is a serious limitation today.

We can talk about the odds of life in the universe, but there is much of our own galaxy that is far too distant for detection and impossible for communication.

 

Yes. In the "go fast" tape, the pilot saw an object move VERY rapidly according to his testimony - which I believe.

But, that object is WELL KNOW to have NOT been going fast.

Throughout our systems that can include eye witness testimony, that kind of testimony is well known to be NOT reliable, because of the limits of our human observational skills from our eyes through to the interpretations made by our brains.

In the "go fast" video, it is crystal clear that the object was not moving fast, because you could read the instruments on the aircraft and do a tiny amount of high school math to note that it was not fast.

This is NOT the only failure mode for reports of strange UFO behavior - by eyes, and by instruments. That is, there are also technological reasons for being wrong.

 

No, the OP brought up aliens. SMH.

People’s lives didn’t change in a meaningful way for 60 years after we figured out electrical generators.

 

^^^ An Ancient Aliens fan. ^^^

 

Are there such things as UFO's?

Yes, until they're identified. Is it possible they'll never be identified? Of course. Yesterday I saw something going around the corner and I couldn't tell what it was. It's unidentified. Does that mean it was an alien? No it doesn't.



Can intelligent people see something unidentified and wonder what it was?

Yes. Does that mean it was a space man? No, it doesn't.



Why can't it be a space man?

Because the distances between stars and galaxies makes it impossible to travel between them. Yes, it's difficult to comprehend, but it is true. It's as difficult to travel from a star thousands of light years away as it is for you to see the date of a penny in someone's pocket - from China.



Why do seemingly reputable people say these things in public?

They may honestly believe it. They may want to believe it. They may want fame. Not likely you say? In a world where people die every day doing insanely stupid stunts while holding a cell phone to become famous, nothing is off the table.

 

Nothing in my post said it was aliens. That wasn't even one of the two options i listed.

 

It is very interesting that this hearing and its implications has so little attention paid to it. Certain facts are important and evident.
The government is dealing with a reality.
The nature of the reality is still unclear.
Non-human activities are taking place around us.
There is no evidence of hostility in these activities.
This would be the biggest story of our lifetimes, one would think.

 

I find it to be pretty amazing that the most technically advanced country on the planet doesn't have a clear photo of any of these supposed encounters.

Color me sceptical?

 

Skepticism is necessary in this instance, as so many questions remain. Nevertheless, there is something as real as anything else going on.

 

from what I have heard there are much better photos, but they are all still highly classified. Only the ones where it is hard to really tell what you are looking at have been declassified. We’ll see, hopefully.

 

Not necessarily, a spacecraft is actually quite small relative to what astronomers are usually able to identify. I'll put it to you this way, when the Chelyabinsk meteor hit Russia in 2013, nobody saw it coming. We had no idea of it's existence until after it entered our atmosphere and exploded, and this thing weighed over 12,000 tonnes.

A spacecraft might not necessarily be spotted by astronomers

 

And no other country has evidence either. Or, the governments of all countries on earth have a secret pact to keep the evidence hidden, even places like Somalia or Myanmar...

To me, it seems that we might not recognize alien life, if it hit us. It might have a vastly different size than us, maybe smaller than ants, maybe larger than a mountain. It might not be carbon based, certainly will not use DNA/proteins for "legislative/executive" function . It may not need water, may not use soft tissue, etc. Therefore, all accounts of imagining extraterrestrials as somewhat hominid, as in the 50s, are suspicious from the get go.

Here is another take on the "whistleblower", which I agree with:

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/28/opinions/ufo-testimony-aliens-congress-credulous-colavito/index.html

 

Explain the evidence.

 

One for sure... when asked if the Pentagon has recovered crashed vehicles and biological remains believed to be of “non-human” origin, they said "Yep" (paraphrased). In fairness to your stance.. They didn't say the word "alien". They did, however, through "extraterrestrial" & "non-human origin" your bantered around ALLOT.

 

I have a theory that these so called UFOs are not solid objects but energy.
I refer to this phenomena as UFLs which means Unidentified Flying Light. Or maybe I should say Unidentified Moving Light. There is no evidence that these appearances are solid objects. Controlled energy could make the observed maneuvers that I and a multitude of people have said they observed.
No evidence of a craft or bodies or entities have ever been presented to us, the people.

I base my conclusion on the story below:
In 1970 my girlfriend and I observed something at night that appeared over a large reservoir. It appeared to “move” and appeared to “move” in 90* angles.
It appeared to have come from the north, it appeared a “turn” at a right angle up, over a bit, down to the level we first observed it at. My girlfriend got scared and said let’s get out of here. I started the car that was pointed in the direction of the “something” the split second that I turned on my headlights the “something” appeared to go off to the north which would be towards Mass.

She said what was that? I said some people call that “UFOs”. She said “like “people “ from outer space is space crafts? I said all we saw was a light is it too dark to see any vehicle. She said “ I have a feeling ‘they’ were watching us, so whoever they are they are perverts”.
I told her we do not know it there was a they. After some back and forth she abruptly said “I do not want to talk about it anymore I am scared”.

 

People are missing the point though.

Ignore Grusch all together. Just the pilots testimony should be something that we all want Congress to get to the bottom of.

 

It is entirely possible that our understanding of space-time fails to accurately describe the universe. Just to pose an idea, what if all time and all space were one thing, from beginning to end, and that the now could be navigated to any point without time or distance being crossed in the sense we currently conceive? What if an intelligence had mastered this?

 

Yeah and I once owned a Ford so I know damned well that not every car is a TOYOTA!!!!!

That makes as much sense.