World Bank, officially - Russia is the fifth economy in the world to overtake Germany.

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  1. Bill Carson

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    Don't worry about my rubles little who dat fan man. They certainly add up more than your dookey dollars. Russian bots....everywhere....under your bed at night? :laughing::lick:
     
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    I have seen the full figures for 2014-2022, just jumping on the 'genocide' lies you've been pushing as a justification for the invasion & mass murder you've been cheering for the past 18 months.

    I figured you would dodge. You know you are pushing lies and you know that if you showed us where you got them it would be even clearer. Thanks for playing.
     
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    Playing? Congrats, you played yourself. You've seen these figures but you don't post them....yeah....doesn't bode well for the Bandera following, now does it.

    gen·o·cide
    noun
    1. the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group.

    I suppose Kyiv's war on ethnic Russian ukrainians in the Donbas was accidental? All 13-14,000 thousand of them? Lotsa accidents, them nazis been having. Maybe the definition of 'genocide' doesn't kick in until 50,000 are killed? Maybe ask the Stepan Bandera ministry of truth?

    Now howsa bout a good ol Seig Heil for ukraine's national hero Stepan?

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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    and it has also been great for the Russian people .. all a matter of perspective I suppose .. you give no indication as to what you are referring to so is meaningless diatribe start to finish :)
     
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    They've fled the country in droves, been dying in droves in Ukraine, and are being locked up for saying anything bad about the orc army or Putin, and are getting poorer by the day. How is this "great" for them?
     
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    Every post on this forum is meaningless. I hope no one thinks that anything posted here is meaningful.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Durandal .. get ahold of yourself .. Massive numbers have left Ukraine friend from 36 million to 18-20 Million .. Azov Nazi SS press gangs rounding up men of the streets .. forcing them into service .. and God Forbid you say anything othre than Nazi Party Line.

    Got some serious backwards perspective action going on Durandal .. Big time Pot o calling Kettle Black Face.. with a side does of hypocrisy.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Is that some new Woke Trope diversion tactic and thought stopping mechanism ? "Its all meaningless .. so just Cancel Everything" :)
     
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    Focus, Gifter. We're talking about Russia and Russian people. I have listed several facts indicating that things are far from "great" for them. You are failing to address this even in the slightest.
     
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    The free world.
     
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    Why did you go to cancel everything?

    You could just as easily have thought of cancel nothing. I think that says something about you.
     
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    This is actually very significant and symbolic.

    The real question is why has Russia's economy been growing so much, and/or why has Germany's been contracting, at the same time?

    Even if this is only due to foreign exchange rates, it still suggests that Russia has been exporting a lot more on the world market than Germany and that Russia's exports are more valuable.

    Here's what I found:
    "The German export surplus in 2022 was at its lowest level since 2000. The Federal Statistical Office (Destatis) reports that the foreign trade balance was down by more than half from +175.3 billion euros in 2021 to +79.7 billion euros"
    "As imports fell, Moscow's trade balance - the difference between total exports and imports - swelled to $282.3 billion in 2022,"
     
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    Incorrect. See:

     
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    True but it does indicate the size of the economy.
     
  17. Bill Carson

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    Does it? G = gross, not net.

    For example, 2 different countries have 1 trillion dollar economies. Country A has zero government spending and zero government borrowing. Country B has $250 billion government spending and $250 billion government borrowing.

    The GDPs of both are the same.

    Now you tell me if the sizes of their economies are the same.
     
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    I am trying to cancel WDP .. but having little luck .. not being a member of the Progressive woke deflection team .. am not as skilled as they .. but feel free to project away :) Har Har Har

    Now Friend .. other than personal invective .. did you want to say anything about the topic .. looks like the US is declining
    Fitch downgrades U.S. long-term rating to AA+ from AAA

    Yeeeouuchii .. Someone don't like Biden creating all that funny money - pretending it grown on the Tree .. not good news, is it !
     
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    What is your conclusion, or what are you arguing, that this edging out of Germany for the #5 spot, in GDP, means?

    Do you forget that Germany is the most powerful & influential member, of the E.U.? That association, gives them extra juice. And Russia is still far out of frame, in the picture of the most wealthy nations, to which your own figures attest: listing China as first-- at 30 million million international dollars; the U.S. second-- at 25 million million; and India third, at nearly 12 million million. Whether a given country, then, is at 5.326 million million, or 5.309 million million, does not seem to be any earth-shattering difference



    P.S.-- and I do not anticipate Russia's passing of Japan, at 5.7 million million, any time in, at least, the foreseeable future.
     
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    I addressed your points .. People left Russia ... No surprise there .. Lads left the US to avoid war back when we had the Draft. What does this matter a fly on a warthog's but to the course of the war .. general economic conditions .. how the Russian People are fairing ?

    it is not Vlad who is short on conscripts .. on a comparative basis .. which was your inference but Biden's JV - Team which is what I told you .. upon which there was a wail "Kremlin Propaganda" .. same cry everytime something conflicts with the State Koolaid du jour your sipping..

    So despite your factoid being correct -- your inference on that basis .. the point you were desperately trying to make .. was erroneous .. Vlad did not have anywhere near 50% of the nation exit .. and the one's that stayed are eager to fight .. specially for the winning team .. Taking Russia to Glory - fighting against the Whore of Babylon .. in case you wanna get Religion Friend :) Remember Deut 32:43 LXX

    Have you figured out what the LXX means yet Brother D .. ?
     
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    This thread is about the Russian economy, which is dwarfed by several individual US states.

    The US economy relative to the rest of the world is doing as well as it's done in most of our lifetimes.
     
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    Very True .. US Economy much bigger than Russia .. why you think this is earth shattering .. I do not know. The claim that it is doing as well as in most of our lifetimes .. is preposterous unsupported nonsense .. something which should have been evident by the headline in the post you are responding to .. having our credit downgraded from AAA to AA++ not exactly a sign of a great economy Friend.- that and host of other factors we need not delve into .. as you are supposed to be making a Russia comparison but, drifted off the page again .. :hippie:
     
  23. Bill Carson

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    A larger economy but not a solvent economy. At least Russia's economy is solvent and they have enough cash to pay all government debt. In that regard, Russia's economy is more solid than any economy in the West. Any. Which is partly why the sanctions didn't work.
     
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    The sanctions are working, Bill. No one said they would do the job overnight.
     
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    You have absolutely no idea whether or not the Sanctions are working .. yet stand there and state defacto to others "Sanctions are working" . What accounts for this behavior ?

    For Sanctions to be effective every other nation in the world that matters needs to be on board.. this is why the Iran sanctions were effective .. China and Russia were on board. The reason why these sanctions are "Broken" is because much of the world is not abiding by them. This serves to create a windfall for those that are not abiding (extra business comming their way) .. and for nations supplying the nations hurt by the sanctions - such as EU - Energy.

    The US is getting hurt by loss of confidence -- an offshoot of the loss of economic hegemony brought on by the rising of a competitor to USD Sole world reserve currency status.

    Fitch downgrades U.S. long-term rating to AA+ from AAA

    Thats what losing looks like.. Russia is doing fine ...
     

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