Hamas has attacked Israel

A child's bedroom in Israel.

 

Why didn't the Jews go back to the homes that were destroyed by the Nazis and the communities that persecuted them? Why didn't they think of that? Thanks for that insight. Way to think outside the box.

Yes. Jews lived in the region before it was Israel. It was a holy place for them. That's why they wanted to go there after the Holocaust.

You make no cents. Are you trying to say the Palestinians were promised a state? They were offered one by the UN, but they decided to go to war instead.

Does it matter?

 

They did, didn't they? They also lived elsewhere besides Germany.

The Jews were a tribe that beat the tribes around and in modern Israel. They didn't live there since the dawn of history.

There are plenty of established clans and racial groups throughout the world. We don't stop all ethnic blood feuds. Especially those found in modern Africa where they brutally kill each other continually. There is no defense for countries such as Ukraine either. We already have military advisors and soon soldiers in Israel. Where is our standing army in Ukraine pushing the Russians out? Why isn't the same level of protection handed out to every nation?

Why does the Jewish state of Israel matter? What makes it so vitally important that American lives can be expended and American dollars can be spent on a foreign nation?

 

Biden never saw evidence. It's a trust me bro source. There is no evidence for anything.

 

Publish the names of the academic Leftists who support War Crimes against Jews in Israel, simply because they are Jews; war crimes against men, women, children and babies.

Publish the names of Hamas lynch/rape supporters in Academia.

https://hotair.com/headlines/2023/1...mas-lynch-rape-supporters-in-academia-n583988

'Student groups at many elite universities — including Harvard, Yale and Columbia, CUNY — have come out in support of Hamas at a time when its terrorists have raped, murdered and kidnapped women, toddlers, the elderly and other civilians, and have reportedly beheaded babies. The immoral groups that support such atrocities are composed of both students and faculty members. Many of these individuals hide behind their organizations’ names and refuse to identify themselves. They do not want to be held accountable in the court of public opinion for their own despicable views. …'

Identify them.

'if a club were formed at any of these universities that advocated rape or the lynching of African Americans, the newspapers would most assuredly publish the names of everyone associated with such a despicable group. Why is this different? Rape has become a weapon of war for Hamas, along with lynching, mutilation, mass murder and kidnapping. Expressing support for these acts, while constitutionally protected, is wrong.'

We have a right to know who they are.

'So let the names be published. Let the despicable students and faculty members who support Hamas stand up and defend their indefensible views, and let the marketplace of ideas decide who is right and who is wrong.'

Exactly.

 

The difference is that so called African Americans didn't do anything to get tortured and mutilated by white Americans whereas the white Jewish Europeans in Israel have been brutalizing the Palestinian population for decades and the hamas reaction was due to this.

It's not rocket science.

 

blacks were slaves in africa well before they were slaves in america. African tribal kings sold their own to europeans for money. The first slave owner in america was black. Africans are responsible for facilitating slave trade, they sold their own. Why aren’t you and african americans asking africa for reparations? Do you even know the history of slavery? Blacks in africa are largely responsible for slavery in america and today blacks are blacks worst nightmare, murdering each other in the throusands a year and brutalizing each other, black and black terror is a thing.

No ethnic group has been more mistreated throughout history than the jews. Babylonian and assyrian empires invaded them and enslaved them. Roman empire and christians persecuted them, treated them like second class citizens. Spain expelled them. Nazis killed 6 million jews like they were dogs. Jews were forcrd to leave their ancestral land and spread all over but everywhere they went, hated and killed. They decided to create their own state and that was israel so they could live together and assure their security. Arabs have never accepted it.. Well, that isn’t going to work.

i feel sorry for people like you, you wake up every morning believing cops and whites are oppressing blacks when it’s clearly blacks who terrorize and oppress themselves today. You don’t even know your history of how slavery came to be, that it was africans who had black slaves well before europeans had them and that it was africans who happily sold their own to europeans for money and goods. It’s also scary how you don’t seem to know history of jews and how for hundreds of years they have faced horrors and mistreated and for what. For being succesful and owning businesses everywhere they went? Even in US, there is hatred towards them just because they own a lot and are successful. Antisemitism is a real thing but you don’t recognize it as you are probably an antisemite yourself.

 

The difference is that so called African Americans didn't do anything to get tortured and mutilated by white Americans whereas the white Jewish Europeans in Israel have been brutalizing the Palestinian population for decades and the hamas reaction was due to this.

It's not rocket science.

 

Where did "Palestinians" live before the land was called "Palestine"? How far back in history do you want to take this nonsense-query? I already told you who the inhabitants of this part of the Middle East were 100,000 years ago.... That part of the world has been a 'cross-roads' for thousands of years, owned or controlled by LOTS of different civilizations, empires, etc. But for a very, very long time it was the Jewish homeland -- even the Roman Empire respected that when it came along many hundreds of years afterwards....

As far as the United Nations goes, in November 1947 the international community voted to approve the establishment of the State of Israel. You and others like you obviously disapprove... so, take that up with the UN.

 

Obviously I wasn't referring to the establishment of the State of Israel.

 

LIVE UPDATEFROM THE LIVEBLOG OF THURSDAY,
OCTOBER 12, 2023

Likud minister: Trump’s ‘shameful’ comments show he can’t be relied on'

'Karhi told Israel’s Channel 13 that it is “shameful that a man like that, a former US president, abets propaganda and disseminates things that wound the spirit of Israel’s fighters and its citizens.”



cont
https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveb...rm-israels-spirit-shows-he-cant-be-relied-on/

 

'Timeline of the name Palestine'

snip:

'This article presents a list of notable historical references to the name Palestine as a place name for the region of Palestine and the wider Middle East in West Asia throughout the history, including its counterparts in other languages, such as Arabic Filasṭīn and Latin Palaestina.

'The term "Peleset" (transliterated from hieroglyphs as P-r-s-t) is found in five inscriptions referring to a neighboring people, who are generally identified with the Philistines,[2] or their land Philistia, starting from circa 1150 BCE during the Twentieth Dynasty of Egypt. The first known mention is at the Medinet Habu temple which refers to the Peleset among those who fought against Egypt during Ramesses III's reign,[3] and the last known is 300 years later on Padiiset's Statue. The Assyrians called the same region "Palashtu/Palastu" or "Pilistu," beginning with Adad-nirari III in the Nimrud Slab in c. 800 BCE through to an Esarhaddon treaty more than a century later.[4][5] Neither the Egyptian nor the Assyrian sources provided clear regional boundaries for the term.[6]

long article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_name_Palestine

 

Today's Palestinians were Jordanians and Egyptians.
Jordan and Egypt decided to go to war with Israel, and lost a bunch of land in the process.
They decided to give up on the people in those lands, not accepting them back into Jordan and Egypt, respectively.
Why?
They had every intention of going to war again, to win those lands back.
Oh, and to drive the Jews into the sea.

Anyone who tells you this is not driven by the Arab hatred of Jews is lying to themselves.

 

read up on history. Jews were persecuted, murdered by evil nazis and others for hundreds of years…

they decided to settle in israel and form a state so they could live together and assure their security, not rely on other countries who never could stop the antisemitism and violence towards jews.

you somehow have missed the part of history where arab countries didn’t want to accept the jewish state, waged war and terrorism against jews in israel and brutalized them through many wars. Eggpt, jordan, syria, saudi arabia, iraq… they all waged war on jews, wanted them out.

all this has played a part in what we have seen but you just want to make it seem as if arabs were nice, welcomed jews and have accepted jewish state all along. In your mind, jews just waged violence against peaceful arabs who always welcomed them and accepted them. Look up how peaceful and welcoming arabs have been.

 

Babies and toddlers were found with their “heads decapitated” in Kfar Aza in southern Israel after Hamas’ attacks in the kibbutz over the weekend, Tal Heinrich, a spokesperson for Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, said on Wednesday.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/kfar-azza-hamas-attack-babies-children/

 

which has what to do with Arabs?

Jewish ppl built a colony in someone else's land, just as the boers did. How can you justify that?

Why couldn't they have relocated to USA since it was USA who saved them?

 

Have you determined the length of time the state of Israel existed for thousands of years ago? What if it ends up being a different nation with more time spent in the region? What about the people that were conquered by the Israelites that predated Israel? What if they lived there longer? The tribes of the Americas have lived in America longer. US citizens should yield all of their land to any tribe members. Because historically they held it longer?

Also Rome was the reason Israel was wiped off the map or you could say it was Israel's fault for it. Rome didn't respect a state because it existed. It respected Israel at the time because they were a vassal of Rome.

 

Syria says Israeli missiles hit Damascus, Aleppo airports
Reuters
October 12, 20239:04 AM EDTUpdated 26 min ago


DAMASCUS, Oct 12 (Reuters) - Syria said Israeli forces launched simultaneous missile attacks on the airports in its capital Damascus and the northern city of Aleppo on Thursday, damaging the runways and putting both hubs out of service.

A Syrian military source cited by state news agency SANA said "bursts of missiles" hit the two airports at the same time, in what he said was a bid to distract the world's attention from Israel's war with Hamas militants in Gaza'.

cont
https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...-targets-aleppo-damascus-airports-2023-10-12/

 

Still no evidence at all. It was another "trust me, bro" source. Still waiting for the truth related to the WMDs in Iraq, Kuwati babies, Assad's gas attack on his own people, Gaddfhi giving his men viagra to rape women, the Gulf on Tonkin for Vietnam, etc.

Are you getting your gear on to go to Israel right now? Ready to fight for that "trust me, bro" source? Or is it for a different generation to go die in some foreign hellhole because of the emotionally charged news they're barraging at people with no evidence?

 

25m ago / 9:08 AM EDT
American troops not being sent for hostages, White House says
Doha Madani

There are currently no plans to send American soldiers to Israel for hostage rescue operations, Jon Finer, deputy national security adviser, told MSNBC's "Morning Joe."

"We are not contemplating U.S. boots on the ground," Finer said.

America experts are involved in advising Israelis on how to proceed, however, Finer noted. There are an estimated 100 to 150 people currently being held hostage by Hamas, officials have said, including missing American citizens.



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they could’ve located to US and US would’ve accepted them, unlike arabs who resort to terrorism and violence. Arabs and their flawed beliefs based on radical islam is a real thing. The head of iran has publicly said be supports wiping israel from the map. You seem to side with these animals and barbarians more than jews which i wonder, who are you?

they picked israel as that’s where they traced their ancestry to, where they originally lived before they were kicked out.

 

Really nothing. Except the fact that the Arabs continually deny the Holocaust never happened, and the fact that the so-called Palestinians recently burned children alive in front of their parents as a recreation of the German ovens.

You have that all wrong. The Jews have been in that area since biblical times. Yes, the British and the Turks were relocating Jews from Europe, but not anywhere near the number of Jews already there. If you do the research, you will see that the boundaries of Israel, including Gaza and the West Bank, resides within what God promised Abraham. Even though the British Mandate was still in effect in 1946 and 1947, the Mandate Palestinians and the Jews in the region waged a guerrilla war against each other. The reason for this was that the original treaty over the British Mandate included a Jewish territory that included the current Israeli borders less Gaza and the West Bank. The Arabs in the surrounding countries protested the Mandate. In order to keep the peace, the British Mandate was rewritten to place the area of Palestinian under the control of Syria. Of course, the Jews felt that the British had betrayed their promise to them. In 1948, the British Mandate went into effect with the British forces pulling out of the area. As soon as that happened, the Jews declared the independence of Israel. They were immediately attacked by several Arab nations, but the Arabs signed a peace treaty in 1949. That treaty handed over control of the Gaza Strip and the West Banks over to Israel. So, you see, the Jew have every right to be in their country. They issued a declaration of independence and enforced with a force of arms. They won their independence much the same way the United States did in 1776.

Try reading the Bible. I recommending you start in Genesis and end with Revolutions. Then you might understand. You might be interested in knowing that the Old Testiment is accepted by the Christians, Jews and Muslims. More fun facts; Judaism began in around 20th century BCB, Christianity began 2023 years ago, and Islam religion just over 1400 years ago. Abraham was in fact an Arab who lived in the area of modern day Syria. His father was an idol maker. So, the histories of all three religions are intertwined.

 

They are not sending "Troops" to liberate the hostages, but they are sending FBI HRT (Hostage Rescue Teams) to aid in the rescues.

 

so you think that hamas didn’t go in and kill over 1,000 israelis? Even hamas has publicly admitted it. All the videos showing hamas gunning down people, taking hostages, shooting them fake? All the videos of bodies fake?

you probably deny holocaust too?

Why do you believe the terrorists and not israel? They are more truthful?

you don’t need to rely on western media btw, there are hamas sites and videos you can look up, their sources. Go ahead and look up all the hamas sources if you want, they are happily posting videos of degrading captured israelis, admitting they killed all those jews and celebrating it. You really don’t have to rely on western media for your sources if you don’t trust them, just look for iran, hamas sponsored media… all hamas people are not denying what they did, they all believe all those killings were justified cause all jews must die.

 

It's one thing for a person to be shot to death. It's entirely different when 40 infants are beheaded. Wars happen all of the time. If we're going to gauge total deaths on either side historically Israel has killed x20 the number of Palestinians for two decades now. Where is the outrage for the thousands that die each year from Israeli bombs?

Any country that makes questioning an event illegal already makes the claim shady. There is already evidence or should I say a lack thereof providing proof that the event even occurred to the scale. Even the genocidal document(s) found were discovered by a left leaning Socialist Jew who exiled from Germany while the Nazis were in control. He found those documents in 1948. How do we know it wasn't fabricated? If questioning makes me a holocaust denier than I'm a holocaust denier. Call me whatever name or label. I don't really care. I live with truth.

I don't believe Hamas either for a lot of their claims. I honestly don't pay attention to them too much. Though it's glaringly obvious when you do a bit research that the Israeli state is hostile towards non-Jews and even permits spitting on Christians. Israel though has been a continual liar. Whether it was Assad's gas attack, their funding of terrorist organizations, Iraq's WMDs, etc... it's a pattern of lying and with the country already so gung ho to invade Iran I question it entirely. This isn't the 1980s or the 1940s. Everyone has smartphones but, somehow this atrocity has zero documentation and the IDF isn't even pursuing an investigation to prove its credibility.

Realistically there is only one western media source which is Reuters. Which happens to be owned by the Rothschild family who are Zionist Jews. Though if Hamas can provide video evidence of the 40 babies being beheaded that'll be something but, thus far the claim was made by the IDF soldiers and not Hamas. I've also seen videos of them telling the cameraman they don't kill certain people. You see children in their custody as well as adults. Though on the Israeli side you see Palestinian children in cages meant for dogs. But that's okay right? Bombing apartment buildings and seeing a limp baby being pulled out of the rubble is okay because X did Y? Never ending blood feuds and Americans have to go die for those blood feuds.