Colorado Sec. 3 14th Amendment arguments made. Did Trump 'engage' in an insurrection?

I'm not really concerned with anything Chris Christie says. It's largely just here get cameras on him.

I'm not really interested in arguing with you about whether or not Trump's going to be convicted of whatever. We'll just wait and see.

I do believe this is an attempt to interfere with the campaign.

Trump still holds an immense amount of popularity and I think that frightens the beltway.

 

We are in primary season. The dynamics totally change for a general election. Biden will not win Texas, no matter who the republicans nominate

 

So first of all your assertion is incorrect.

Giving aid and comfort doesn’t mean nice words or offering pardons.

Giving aid and comfort has a specific legal definition:

https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Aid+and+Comfort

“To render assistance or counsel. Any act that deliberately strengthens or tends to strengthen enemies of the United States, or that weakens or tends to weaken the power of the United States to resist and attack such enemies is characterized as aid and comfort.”

On what grounds did trump do so according to the legal definition of aid and comfort?

You can’t win this case. That clown of a democrat judge who gave money to an organization predicated on “stopping another Jan 6 insurrection” may ignore the definition of aid and comfort but I ASSURE you the SCOTUS won’t.

 

Oh and btw when was the last time you gave $100 to someone or an organization and don’t know who you gave it to? Exactly. Never.

And neither did that biased **** of a “judge”

 

It does. And their continual over the top push to keep the American people from being able to vote for him is going to backfire bigly

 

That's not an argument. Could you please stay on topic?

 

You can't even count. Post #3 is post #3. You are a fact denier.

 

Including you. But, in the meantime, I can have opinions.

 

You are blind. Post #3 is post #3. You are in denial.

 

You haven't offered any facts. You admit they are just your opinions. Biased opinions are not facts. They are just your biased opinions.

 

You haven't demonstrated you are correct. In fact, you admit that all you have is your biased opinion, even flying in the face of several Democratic secretaries of state saying you can't keep Trump off the ballot.

 

Biden admitted selling state secrets. That makes him a traitor.

 

LOL. You jumped to conclusions with your opinions while the facts show that you can't keep Trump off the ballot.

 

Feel free to offer said 'facts'. You even admit that all you've got are your opinions. If you can't debate with facts then you shouldn't debate. Please present facts, not opinions.

 

You offer up nothing but opinions and mockery.

 

Yes, your thread is nothing but a vacuous claim. Nothing substantive offered to which I can offer a reply, mostly because you are a fact denier.

 

Your opinions are nothing but meaningless points. In fact, they are not even points at all because they are just your biased opinions.

 

Clearly, you are not sincere, nor are you interested in a serious debate. You are only interested in your biased opinions while denying all the facts that prove you wrong. But, I'm not going to put you on ignore because I want to see every post you make and counter it, for all to see and they will see, even if you have me on ignore. It doesn't surprise me that you don't want to debate anymore.

 

Nonsense, I could be placed on a ballot tomorrow were I willing to pay the relevant fees. That is the only thing limiting access to a ballot. Your suspicion of x cannot prevent anyone who can pay the fee from being on the ballot. Especially in a primary.

 

The topic is keeping trump off the ballot against the will of voters. It seems like only yesterday the lemmings were chanting against "election interference" and "voter suppression."

I know, it's okay now because trump is ba'a'a'a'd.

 

I gave the facts on this point, and they do not support that contention. In fact, the reverse is true. He's running to keep out of jail.

It should frighten any democracy loving person.

 

Probably not, they will probably give him the benefit of the doubt, which, I suppose, they should for any president,

You've provided a very good counter argument.

However, I noted this line:

These words, as they are to be understood in the constitution, have not received a full judicial construction.

In fact, I may have omitted much more towards the 'aid and comfort' idea in my rebuttal, as I've not watched the entirety of the two videos which go into much greater depth on this point, only a small segment of the first one. They total 4 hours, so I'm trying o find the time to watch them. And, I will, of course. I'll get back to you on that point. I will say this, the issue isn't settled, that's for certain. both sides have good arguments, as evidenced in the video.

 

Sure, you could, you did nothing to trigger section 3 of the 14th, you didn't incite and give aid and comfort to insurrectionists, as Trump did.

False equivalence. And it's not an arbitrary 'suspicion'. It's a FAIR suspicion, given Trump and 1/6, and scrutinizing in a court of law is a worth while effort.

 

Again your opinion does not give you the right to keep some one off the ballot. Until you have a conviction that is not overturn in a higher court. You have neither standing nor justification to keep trump of the ballot.

 

You fail to recognize that the opinion proffered is that of a left winger and left wingers, being of the highest ethical, moral and intellectual character ever known on the face of the earth, DOES constitute fact. They, as God before them, merely speak and create all that is true!