We don't need no educashun...

Does this mean that, in your opinion, human beings are not really distinct individuals?

 

Some parts are.

 

Explain.

 

You linked to some google docs that do not, as far as I can see, show any connection to the Oakland Education Association.

 

It is easier to control a population if they don't know how to think and must rely on the words of a man who is treated like a god within a certain political party. Hence why "no education" movement within the MEGA conservative crowd.

Most other countries treat education almost like a religion, and we treat Football almost like a religion with the same respect. That is why countries from Western Europe and Asia tend to have better-educated students who know the world instead of here. Here, we teach more about the myths of history, science, sociology, English, and mathematics than we actually teach those subjects because we are too sensitive on hoe those subjects are perceived.

 

It really has nothing to do with "leftist" or Republican anything generally when it comes to education. However, both sides tend to be at fault. The Far Right is more willing to ban books because they have LGBTQ, Race, and other themes at the far right disagrees with. This is more in line with Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia idealogy than anything else. For instance, Texas SBOE, the agency that approves textbooks for schools, has rejected all science textbooks that teach climate change. Climate change is real and we see that with the warming of the earth's oceans, the melting of the glaciers in the North and South Poles, and the more extreme weather conditions that are forming faster than ever before recorded in history. Climate change, as a science, has nothing to do with fossil fuels or that industry. YOu also have Florida with its policies about an internet conspiracy theory on CRT and try to identify anything with "black" in them as CRT. And thus, Florida's education in the primary and secondary is going downward, not upward. We treat teachers with disrespect in most states, which is why teachers, after only a few years on the job, are leaving, creating teacher shortages. Some school districts in Texas are having to create four-day work weeks and all the right can think of is "this is leftist idealogy" and not looking at reality. No one wants to teach anymore, and that also includes private schools that are also having teacher shortages as well, including some religious schools. Three prominent religious private schools have teacher shortages in areas such as English, Science, and History because they want to impose politics on what should be taught based on political ideology with a Christian theme.

If you want to look at the ME, you must look at Israel and Palestine equally. The problem with the Left viewpoint is that they tend to look more at Palestine than Israel. And yet, none of them would have existed if we did not break up the Ottoman Empire after WW1. After the 1920 Paris Peace Treaty, both the British Empire and the French Empire broke up the Ottoman Empire and took control of those lands, creating artificial countries in which a variety of tribes lived within those artificial boundaries. And because of that, we have our problems today between Palestine and Israel, Egypt, the Kurds, Iraq, and so forth.

In the 1960s, people were very emotional on both ends of the spectrum. But even today, the military is not respected while it tries to adapt to the modern world. That is why Tuberville and other Republicans have put holds on senior officers who do not have a say in any political policy whatsoever. The constant barrage of treating the US military like an orphaned child with political hype that says the military is weak is a bunch of BS.

 

That would probably be something for a high schooler. In that part of the world, you need to start before WW1 when the Ottoman Empire controlled the region. Then go with WW1, the 1920 Treaty of Paris, which formalized the partitioning of the Ottoman Empire. Thus, like all history, it is complicated and cannot be simplified as easily as "Israel is good" and "Palestine is bad" type of thing. And that is the problem with how we, in the US, teach history, at least in primary and secondary schools nowadays.

 

yes, racist nuts, religious nuts, do sometimes exist in our system, when found we need to get rid of them, regardless of race or religions of the nut bags

we even have a religious nut as the speaker of the house right now.... who says teaching evolution is the root of all evil and God will smite us for it

 

Young people today think they can get their education over the internet and not be in school. That is the attitude most young people have today. Young people are about as attached to the internet as young people in the 1950s were attached to their cars or motorbikes if they could afford one.

The number one skill that employers look for is people skills. That's it. You can be technically educated in whatever, but they look for people skills. People skills means how to talk to someone personally, not by text or email, although that is secondary. Colleges don't teach people skills, but they do teach technical skills from business to liberal arts to science to whatever. And in some cases, having a license is a must if you want to further your career professionally.

 

Site heading:
Oakland Teach-In Curricular Resources

Headline:
Educational Resources on Palestine
Gathered & Created by Members of the Oakland Education Association

 

You need a Janusz Korczak.

Ideologically driven education - be it religious or secular, right or left - is depriving children of the right to think freely.

 

You can't compare professional educators with politicians. The fact that American educators, alumni and alumnae of American higher learning institutions, are treating children in their care like cannon fodder for their ideological agenda, is a dire indictment of those institutions.

 

sure you can, all are bad, all need to lose their jobs if they push that crazy on the American people or their children

if a teacher tells students they will go to hell for not believing in a God, fire them, simple

if a teacher pushing racism... fire them... simple

 

When it comes to education, whether public, private, or even homeschool, we Americans treat education more as an afterthought. Education is simply a place, a glorified place, to take care of the children while we work. That's it. But ideology is driving education and yes, both sides do it. We teach the myths of history, limit science because it interferes with one's ideological philosoph, and so forth. But you don't see that in Europe, not in the UK, France, Germany, Poland today, Japan, China generally, South Korea, Australia, and so forth. But here, we want things easy, and quick, brief click on the internet, and so forth. And then we expect teachers to be pretty much everything from security guards to parents to teachers to social workers to pretty much everything else. Remember, even private schools are having trouble getting teachers, especially religious, private schools. The main reason is that true teachers want to teach and don't want to be anything else even though they are forced to by state legislatures, school boards, and other groups with political ambitions in mind.

 

The question is, how did the teachers become bad?

 

don't care, fire them

same with bad cops or any other bad government employee

 

Sounds depressing. I didn't realize the situation was that bad. Seems systemic, not circumstantial.

 

That's an interesting sentence; who is "they" and who is "us"?

I've never been able to get someone on the right to actually define, "the left", now you're introducing "neo-left". Would you define that please?

It appears you're equating "neo-left" to bolsheviks, so "neo-left" must be a very small part of American society because I don't think I've ever met one.

 

Did you bother to read your own articles?

"INTRODUCTION As educators, we aim to help young people develop thoughtful, analytical, and empathetic responses to the world around them, and a willingness to recognize and confront injustice in their communities. Our work is not to wind our students over to a particular side nor indoctrinate them with our own political perspective on Israel-Palistine. Rather we seek to introduce our students to a range of perspectives and equip them with the tools to engage critically, participate in the discourse, and draw their own conclusions."

That doesn't sound anything like what you're describing. But, your OP seems to exactly define the thought control that tRaitor tRump and his supporters subscribe to.

 

They didn’t. The purpose of an institution is what it does, not what it claims to do.

Teachers are wildly successful at doing what the system they are a part of intends.

 

Yeah, reminds me of the stuff that paves the way to hell...

Anything to say about this:
"75 years ago, a lot of decision makers around the world decided to take away Palestinian land to make a country called Israel. Israel would be a country where rules were mostly fair for Jewish people with white skin."

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Here's a statement on their Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/OaklandEA/...aLEmxZ568HUrYGdZhcqaKaXtWfoPRwBJzYHsa46rnkLBl

Pay attention to the "disciplinary action" part...they know that what they're doing is not allowed...

 

Any presentation of "facts" is going to be inherently biased to some degree. Even just saying "this thing happened on this day at this precise hour" deletes all the things that happened around it and assumes that the receiver of the "fact" cares more about the day and hour than other information.

 

What makes this objectively true? What information are you deleting and do you believe that you are totally unbiased?

 

Good will hunting.

 

I don't know if it is systematic or not. But it is getting worse as politics enters into the education arena from textbooks to school libraries and book bans to what and how teachers should teach a certain topic and so forth. And that is the problem here.