The moral failure of this "American" Government

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  1. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Yes I have
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    the actions and beliefs of the qokew mob provide overwhelming proof.

    I am in a perfect position to judge as likew all woke retards he is merely lying outright to defend the groesque beliefs of the woke scum
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    You ARE the willfully ignorant posting proven lies
     
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    philosophical Well-Known Member

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    No, you haven’t listened to the Matthew Syed series.
     
  4. philosophical

    philosophical Well-Known Member

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    Your ability to engage in any kind of reasoned discussion does not exist.
     
  5. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Yes he is unimportant and lying

    I am correct

    That is proven
     
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  6. Soupnazi

    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    I am very able to do so but you have not attempted to engage in reasonable discussion.

    Your assertion of the causes and motives of the revolutionary war is NOT reasonable

    It is not supported by evidence and is cheap, childish, woke fiction
     
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    Less than 24 hours after 9/11, NATO invoked Article 5 for the first time in its history, showing support for the United States.
     
  8. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

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    Nope. If we stop aid at one place, we must stop it everywhere across the globe
    I mean, if the OP wants to get serious about this, right?
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Are you sure, as a prog, that it's wise to push Jill Biden holding a sign like this on a public forum???
     
  10. Hey Now

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    Yeah, but Israel is critical to Christ's second coming for Christian Evangelicals. They will make deals with all kinds of "devils" to achieve this belief!
    I am being sarcastic...;)
     
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    As a proxy war for Chinese communism, I expect none of the rest of us are surprised by your acknowledgement. So, that is, ultimately, your goal then, right? To ensure the dominance of Chinese communism, and all the propaganda you post is in support of that, right?
     
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    Hmm.. so this is you being actively fueling the racist fire.... Cause, this is the actual outcome of your propaganda here.
     
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    Consistency doesn't seem to be your main concern.:wink:

    You worry about Article 5. You should know that, to many analysts, this Article does not apply automatically in case of conflict: each country would still have the option not to participate.

    I'm not a warmonger, but I worry that many people are taking peace and freedom for granted. That's what happened to the Europeans after the implosion of the Soviet Union in 1991. They were enjoying the benefit of "everlasting peace" they thought they had gained.
    Putin's invasion of Ukraine had at least one positive result: Europeans are coming out of their lethargy and finally starting to rebuild their military strength.

    Your position regarding Ukraine makes me wonder if we are able to perceive the threats to our freedom and if we would still be able to win a war, should we face one.
    We haven't won a war since WW2. Vietnam and Afghanistan were 2 shameful disasters for the US, despite having the highest defense budget and presumably the strongest armies of the world.
     
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    spiritgide Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is true. It's true for us as individuals, and it's true for us as nations.
    We should demonstrate it, teach it- but not take the power to have it away from others. We cannot gift strength by making it unnecessary.
    Subsidizing weakness perpetuates both weakness and dependency, and we should be ashamed to do that to others; it causes great harm.
     
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    As usual, you yank historical figures out of their time and condemn them for not conforming to the standards you set 200+ years later. Yes, George Washington was a slaveholder, but at the end of his life he questioned the system. He made arrangements to free the slaves he owned and provided pensions for some of them.

    Historical progress takes time. Reforms and ideas must be formulated, and it takes time to make them political realities. And there are steps backward from time to time, like communism and fascism.

    As for England, yes there was an anti-slavery movement there as shown by this token, but it was very much in the minority. England would not end slavery in its colonies until the 1830s. This piece was issued in the 1780s.

    British no slaves All.jpg

    Here is the American counterpart to that token, which was issued in 1838.

    Low 54B All.jpg
     
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    Time to time you open thread similar to like this and talk about US foreign policy in much black and white term. But you never answer more complex issue.

    What happens if EU create diplomatic/ Military/ Trade / Security Alliance with China and leave NATO and US relationship?

    What happens if EU create diplomatic/ Military/ Trade / Security Alliance with Russia and leave NATO and US relationship?

    What happens if EU, China and Russia create their own version of NATO ?

    What happens if China , Australia , India, Japan and North and South Koria create their own military/ trade alliance?

    You think today Biden administration dragging us to WW3 in Europe ? If China , EU , Russia , Australia , India , Japan create their own alliance , the WW3 will be fought not in Europe but “Middel America” in Kansas and Colorado.
     
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    Your ability to engage in any kind of reasoned discussion does not exist.

    Goodness knows how you make the connection.
     
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    yes it does

    You are projecting.

    your conspiracy theory BS is not a reasonable subjecgtg to discuss
     
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    philosophical Well-Known Member

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    Don’t respond any more then.
    You’re seemingly incapable of discussion.
     
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    What a lame Russianspambot post.

    Это лучшее, что у тебя есть? Жалкая тарабарщина. Ты знаешь, где меня найти, Борис.
     
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    I suspect that is not the ONLY difference between you and the imposter.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    I am very capable but one needs an intelligent subject to discuss not disproven and idiodic woke conspiracy theories.
     
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    I'm surprised it took this many posts..
     
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    And that shows what a dangerous rule Article 5 was/is. The war was as damaging to UK/European national interests as the US. We had Donald Rumsfield, the British had Tony Blair. It would have been better for them(and possibly us as well, since without a coalition Bush might not have went ahead) if they gave us their sympathy and best wishes, but nothing else.

    Today, we risk being in the same position as UK/EU= Forced into a war that does not serve our national security and in fact weakens both the economic and military position.
     
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    That would be nice, but how to acheive it?

    Besides, this is coming a lot from the 'everything is racial' crowd. For example, they would (and have) argue that the 2A was written so white slaveowners could arm militias of, I guess, 'slave police' or something, therefore 'the 2A is racist' against black people. Nevermind that gun control was primarily used as a neans to prevent blacks in particular from being armed from around 1865 up through the 1960s.
     

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