Trump-Appointed Judge Halts Removal of Confederate Memorial at Arlington Cemetery

And we can do that with monuments to the winners. We don’t need to honor traitors to remember what they did.

 

There is no honor to be had. Honor is an illusion. Good or bad. But there is a history to be told. And getting rid of it does a disservice to that history, and ourselves, and will let others attempt to re-write history. Which is exactly what lefties are trying to do.

 

What rewriting??? It’s y’all who want these participation monuments to losers. I want more of the victors. It’s righties who wanna treat these traitors like heroes.

 

Bold: This is not truthful. "Righties" as you call them want history preserved. Has nothing to do with "heroes". That is projection on your part.

As for rewriting history, like I've already pointed out, this very thread has a lefty poster in it that is trying to rewrite history. The evidence is here for all to see for themselves.

 

It’s coming down. Maybe we can get a statue of a great American like. For example, the only President in my lifetime to balance the budget!

 

The American Taliban never fail to amaze me.

 

I wouldn’t be too sure about that …

 

I am sure they mean well, but erasing history is always error.

“The most effective way to destroy people is to deny and obliterate their own understanding of their history.” George Orwell

 

Perfect!

 

And a good example of that could be found in this forum.

I live in Virginia and have never had any sympathy for the Confederacy and the damnable institution it fought to perpetuate, but slavery, the CSA and the Civil War are all part of our history (as was the Jim Crow Era when many of the CW statues went up). I get the argument that they're offensive to many people but on the other hand they do serve the purpose of being a constant reminder of our checkered past. This point was really driven home for me when some blithering idiot in this very forum once said that "racism was a good thing for our country", and I immediately thought of the Confederate statues that bear silent testimony to the tens of thousands of men who were slaughtered and maimed here in Virginia on account of that racism. I've also lived in Richmond, which got burned to the ground by the Confederates and I'm familiar with towns like Petersburg that flourished before the CW and never recovered from that war.

I've always believed that the people in our communities should decide what to do with the CW monuments in their counties, towns and cities, but as you pointed out and I just recounted, there can be a problem with sweeping that history under the rug. I know History can be horrible, ugly and offensive, and while this might sound counter-intuitive, it's the worst parts of our History that we need to remember the most. As the great Frederick Douglass repeatedly pointed out in his autobiographies, it was the federal government in Washington DC that was the black heart of the "slave power" in the United States, and the people who don't realize or have forgotten that it remains the greatest threat to our individual freedom and prosperity need to face our horrible, ugly and offensive History and wake the hell up.

 

Elaborate!

 

That Inconvenient Truth became very obvious after the failure of Reconstruction.

“Both of them have sold us out, both parties have sold us out. Both parties are racist, and the Democratic Party is more racist than the Republican Party.” Malcom X, By Any Means Necessary, Malcom X, Betty Shabazz and Pathfinder Press, 1992, P 46.

The DP remains the party of institutional systemic racism in America and the RP's cowardly failure to react appropriately is appalling.

 

The majority of the reason for the Civil War had to do with a desire to centralize control and remove states rights in favor of federal power and control.

Little has changed. There is still a contingency that desires to implement this agenda contrary to the intent of our Founding.

They saw the damage potential of a strong central government and fought against it. For good reason.

The current desire of the liberal left to centralize and force control through the fed has everything to do with control. If you have to remove people's individuality by elimatinating options, then that is the problem.

Every liberal policy and agenda is based upon force. Prove me wrong. The confederacy saw the danger in that.

 

You’re ruining the claims of the idiots who want to pretend the south were not conservatives

 

we do not need any statues of Hitler to remember the bad things he did

 

And yet, there are so many holocaust deniers. Maybe the Germans should have kept a few statues of him after all....

 

There are those, in America, that would like to not only tear down all statues of Confederate monuments but already are searching the annuals of history to remove the names off of schools, court houses, Army Bases and other buildings that they find offensive. Given any leeway it won't be long that all streets and highways and anything Confederate will be erased. Yet every day I look at my money and there it is Washington, Jefferson, Franklin and other past Presidents who have the taint of slavery in their past. Are we going down the road and confiscate all such coins, books, and archives of our racial past? Can you name me one other past civilization that doesn't have or never had slavery in its past or present day. My present family has kin that go back to both sides of those who fought in the civil war. I guess Ancestor .com will have to be purched of such information so that someone's feelings don't get hurt.

 

sure the holocaust deniers would support Statues of Hitler in the center of towns or on the State house lawns

 

At least there'd be less of them.

 

Oh they're not stopping at just Confederates.

LINK: Portland protesters tear down statues of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt (nbcnews.com)

I can link to other statues being torn down also.

 

less of whom, they would grow in number as they would feel the gov supported them, as their hero was on a statue on a pedestal in the center of town

the swastika would be everywhere, reminding them of their belief and strengthening it

 

Nope. The fact that we no one denying the civil war happened shows you to be wrong on that.

 

they deny the reason for it, proving the statues were to twist history, not remember it

 

I've never seen anyone deny that slavery was the reason for it. Try again.

 

some here have