IDF STATEMENT "No malice in the killing of the 3 hostages"

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  1. Jolly Penguin

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    It is a demonstration of making no effort to see through any fog of war. It is shoot them all and sort it out later mentality. And here you are defending it.

    That condemnation is nearly universal.

    Also the majority position.

    Criticizing Israel does not equate to supporting Hamas, no matter how many times you imply it does.
     
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    That appears to be so. I don't see why it would matter though. They were unarmed, attempting to show that, calling for help and one was carrying a white flag.

    What else should we realistically expect escaped hostages to do to indicate who they are and that they are not Hamas fighters deserving of being killed?

    And if this is how people in this circumstance are treated by the IDF, what chance do Palestinian civilians not held by or working for Hamas have when encountering the IDF? And why should they believe anything Israel says to them at this point? This makes Hamas propaganda much more potent in their minds, and creates yet another generation of Palestinians who will never trust Israel and may become terrorists.

    It also undercuts popular international support for Israel, not just in the region but around the globe, and Israel is a nation that needs such international support more than most others.

    This all amounts to the opposite of keeping Israelis safe in the long run.
     
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    Have you ever been in combat? Has anyone ever shot a firearm at you with the intent to kill? Have you ever walked through a city worried about doors opening and terrorists shooting at you? Have you ever been worried about stepping on a land mine or kicking a trip wite of a Claymore device?

    Have I? No, but I would never presume that to judge the actions of soldiers who face those challenges every day defending the lives of the citizens of their country and fellow soldiers against terrorists who have used deception including white flags to kill. That is exactly what you are doing. That’s shameful.
     
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    Yes, I can see that. It is quite alarming.
    I think they could be marching Palestinians into gas chambers and you would say they were just following orders.
     
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    Sounds like the Hummus savages.
     
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    That is from Planet of the Apes. With Charlie Heston.
     
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    Interesting as in Planet of the Apes, the dark colored apes were much more violent and savage than the light ones.
     
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    Apparently the condemnation of IDF murderers is less important than the late mr. Haims dialect.
     
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    So you have no response but again condemn battle fatigued Israeli soldiers for defending themselves and their nation. Instead you make up some clearly horrible comment about gas chambers knowing full well the history of the concentration camps in WWII. That indeed is shameful.
     
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    What they’re doing is hardly defending themselves. They are committing war crimes mass murdering defenseless civilians.
     
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    They are defending Israel directly and Gazan civilians indirectly. Hamas uses human shields.
     
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    Do you really think 30,000 murdered and 100,000 injured were all human shields?
     
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    Go back and read the thread. Hamas is responsible for all the deaths in Gaza.

    11,000 dead children on Hamas’s watch. Why can’t Hamas protect Gazan children?
     
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    What do you keep on repeating the delusion that Hamas has F-35s?
     
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    I think the idea is that everyone in Gaza is thereby a human shield, just for being there, and ok for Israel to kill, because whoever they kill there and however they do it, its only Hamas' fault, and the IDF has clean hands?
     
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    Really, what would you have the escape hostages do? I'm still waiting for your answer to that question. What could they have done NOT to be gunned down by the IDF? Are you unable to answer because there is nothing they could have done, and there is no line these IDF soldiers could cross that would make you speak up against them?
     
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    Hamas launches rockets from Gazan neighborhoods.
     
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    You read the report. In fact you linked to the details. The circumstances were clearly explained. There is the answer to your question.

    How did the three become hostages? Hostages are very valuable to Hamas for trade. How did they escape from Hamas? How did they get to the front lines?
     
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    The reality is that Hamas launches rockets from Gazan neighborhoods.
     
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    Lol. There aren’t many neighborhoods left in Gaza. Your beloved IDF has destroyed most of Gaza.
     
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    How many neighborhoods with rocket launchers hidden in tunnels are there?
     
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    I don’t know, but suspect you think all of Gaza should be destroyed and thousands of children massacred.
     
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    27,000 fatalities. 11,000 are Hamas. 11,000 claimed children. Children are defined as under the age of 19. Most likely the 11,000 are Hamas recruits. Why does Hamas recruit 10 - 18 year olds as Hamas terrorists?
     
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    Of course you don’t know.

    Why don’t you want Gaza to return to the safety, security, and economic prosperity of the time prior to 2005?
     
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    What I find appalling is you can somehow equate unguided rockets that seldom kill anyone and cause little damage to the death and destruction in Gaza. WTF!
     
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