“It Will Be A Shock”: Ukraine Lost 500,000 Soldiers In War So Far, Nearly 30,000 Per Month: Lutsenko

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  1. zoom_copter66

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    Yep...Finland has joined....Sweden will follow in a few weeks.....Ukraine after that.....

    I remain master strategist.
     
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    yangforward Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Believe that if it makes you happy,
    most people find Biden depressing and demotivating.
    but believe whatever makes you happy
    maybe, if it doesn't do too much harm to others
     
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    Wrong
    We are lightyear behind that type of fusion technology
     
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  4. ToughTalk

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    You better hope. Not like backing currency with gold is a smart/viable idea regardless...it would certainly be ****ing embarrassing once technology can dilute the one thing you are backing your currency with.
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Where is the strawman ? What words were put in your mouth that you did not speak .. "Read my Post" :)

    and what part of 500 k Ukraine soldiers lost were you having trouble with ?
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The BRICs Currency .. be it backed by Gold or something else of intrinsic value .. is going to destroy the Sole world reserve currency status of the US-Dollar long before alchemy via Fusion becomes a reality.
     
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    No hope required -- Fusion will not be diluting the value of Gold in your Grandchildren's lifetime --- what will be diluted by clean cheap Fusion power is the value of Energy .. in particular Oil .... this dilution may well increase the value of Gold .. but such is speculation.

    One thing that is not speculation in the present is the idea that backing a currency with Gold will be affected by Fusion in time to save the US dollar from the Humpty Dumpty Fall... and all the kings horses and all the kings men will not be able to fix Humpty my friend. We are witnessing the decline of a world economic and military Empire. Going down fast on both fronts .. the cycle of history repeating itself .. exactly as foretold.
     
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    you may as well have just said something more obviously emotional like "The BRICS currency is going to be the bestest currency ever in the history of all the universe"
     
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    Cant be asses chasing up an old Post. No idea what you're talking about.
     
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    Why would I say something as stupid as your strawman proposes ? The point has nothing to do with the greatness of the BRICs currency ...and much to do with 1) the silliness of thinking Fusion is going to diminish the value of gold in the near future .. and 2) that waking up in the morning and finding that the US has lost its Sole Status and now has a competitor for international trade .. is a very big deal sans for the deer in headlights ... which kind of applies on both accounts I fear.
     
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    The OP Melb .. focus 500K Soldiers dead on the Ukraine side .. What thread did you think you were in ? .. The Genocide Joe in Gaza Chat ?
     
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    Right out of kindergarten cop friend .. poor deer never saw it coming .. !?

    losing sole status is big deal mate .. putting them blinders on and pillow over head not gonna change that reality.
     
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    Haven't really noticed a difference just yet. Let me know when I should.
     
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    Uh sure okay. Except 1991 isn't recent. And the Soviet empire fell. Putin is attempting to claw back former parts of the soviet empire and blames the US as a pretext to do this.
     
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    The US is not just a pretext. The US really did expand NATO by
    lots of countries all the way to Ukraine and put NATO weapons
    and training into Ukraine to the tune of raising an army of 680,000
    servicemen.

    That's a big pretext.

    Maybe pay some attention to Putin's explanation because it
    actually makes sense and is supported by the basic facts.
     
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    Putin became an enemy of US elites and the government they own in 1999 when he ended the looting of Russian assets by western capitalists:

    https://consortiumnews.com/2023/06/30/ukraine-timeline-tells-the-story/

    "New Year’s Eve 1999: After eight years of U.S. and Wall Street dominance, Vladimir Putin becomes president of Russia. Bill Clinton rebuffs him in 2000 when he asks to join NATO.

    "Putin begins closing the door on Western interlopers, restoring Russian sovereignty, ultimately angering Washington and Wall Street.

    "This process does not occur in Ukraine, which remains subject to Western exploitation and impoverishment of Ukrainian people.

    "Feb. 10, 2007: Putin gives his Munich Security Conference speech in which he condemns U.S. aggressive unilateralism, including its illegal 2003 invasion of Iraq and its NATO expansion eastward."

    Imho, Kiev would look like Gaza City today if Putin had any intention of clawing back former Soviet states.
     
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    Putin began his explanation in 2007, and the US ignored him, focusing instead on regime change in Moscow.

    https://consortiumnews.com/2023/06/30/ukraine-timeline-tells-the-story/

    "Feb. 10, 2007: Putin gives his Munich Security Conference speech in which he condemns U.S. aggressive unilateralism, including its illegal 2003 invasion of Iraq and its NATO expansion eastward.

    "He said: 'We have the right to ask: against whom is this [NATO] expansion intended? And what happened to the assurances our western partners made after the dissolution of the Warsaw Pact? Where are those declarations today? No one even remembers them.'"

    "Putin speaks three years after the Baltic States, former Soviet republics bordering on Russia, joined the Western Alliance.

    "The West humiliates Putin and Russia by ignoring its legitimate concerns. A year after his speech, NATO says Ukraine and Georgia will become members. Four other former Warsaw Pact states join in 2009."
     
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    There is not yet a valid competitor to the US dollar for international transaction --- so why would you think to notice a difference based on US a losing sole status in the present for an event yet to happen? Quite an irrational path that would be .. and far off the point in any case. The deer in headlights moment is not recognizing what a horrible day for the USA it would be were this event to happen.

    and now you know .. once again .. what the prophet told you before ... long ago what would happen .. now you still wandering around with them blinders on... even though you been told but no learn.
     
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    I think many decades of poor/idiotic fiscal and monetary policy by US "leaders" have destroyed the dollar.
     
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    None of that really makes sense, but particularly the last sentence. When you want to take over a country to utilize it, you don't want it to be in shambles. Gaza City looks like it does today because Israel basically views all Palestinians as a security threat as well as subhuman. It's like how Rome viewed Carthage, but back in those days you could get away with far more.

    America's dislike of Russia is predominantly about their attempts to be imperialistic, e.g. with Georgia and Ukraine, and the fact that they're undemocratic fascists. The former is a reason for military action, the latter is not.
     
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    Dude where the **** were you when Putin had a 3 day special military operation that tried to take Kiev?
    He's also attempted to annex territory he held at the beginning of the conflict.
    Come the **** off it.
     
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    That sounds like Putin's paranoia / projection. The US did not try regime change in Moscow. Even if it did, it doesn't justify Russia's bloody war on Ukraine.

    NATO expands because countries voluntarily join it, just like Sweden and Finland are now doing. Only a warmonger with expansionist designs would be angry at neighboring sovereign states banding together to protect each other in case of attack.

    Why would the west need to give any assurance to Russia about independent countries who choose to align with NATO instead of Russia?

    There is no "aligning" with Russia anyway, Russia has shown to be a corrupt, warmongering dictatorship and has only itself to blame that no one around it feels safe.
    The Warsaw Pact states lived under Russian occupation for decades and they know how horrible any alignment with Russia is. Russia held those countries as their 'eastern Empire', where each country had a terrible dictator (Caucescu, etc...) under Russian support & protection. None of those eastern European countries wants anything to do with Russia anymore. Why can't Russia just co-exist peacefully?

    Russia's "legitimate concerns"? Like having the ability to start bloody wars for conquest?
     
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    If you're referring to the Russian Kyiv convoy, it's likely it never intended to "take" Kyiv with only 70,000 soldiers; however, it did serve as a successful fixing operation to pin down thousands of Ukrainian reinforcements from preventing the Russian liberation of the Donbass.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Kyiv_convoy
     
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    The US has a documented record of attempted regime change operations in Russia beginning in failure in 1918 and culminating with success in 1990:

    https://www.opendemocracy.net/en/od...invasion-of-ukraine-possible-i-saw-it-happen/

    "US president Joe Biden has called for ‘regime change’ in Russia, a statement that should recall previous US-led regime change crusades – in Chile, Iraq and Afghanistan, among many..."

    "The plan to turn Russia and Ukraine into capitalist economies was based on three premises, whose combination would turn out to be quite literally fatal."

    Western capitalists have never abandoned their century-long dream of balkanizing Russia and looting its natural resources.
     
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