Largest Covid Vaccine Study Yet Finds Links to Health Conditions

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  1. FatBack

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    You might like being told what to do by the government but here in America we don't really like that sort of thing

    Never in my adult life have I been told that I must take something. All of you people who are so critical about Christianity should realize that this is the mark of the beastm

    And my girlfriend has been living with several types of cancer for at least 3 years now as a result of that stupid vaccine.

    We just got done having five intense sessions of radiation. The tumor had grown around her carotid artery. There was a 2% chance that radiation could bust the artery but there's a 100% chance that without the radiation.... The tumor could still go around the artery and cut off the blood supply.

    No I'm not saying that I wish you could have someone in a similar situation.... But for those of you who swear that it can't have anything to do with it..... It would really be a hell of a thing if you had to drive someone to radiation 30 mi away when you get off of work on the graveyard shift
     
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    Nothing says trust the science quite like having to sign an ironclad disclaimer that says you won't sue for any damages the so-called vaccine causes
     
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    If the anti-vaccine folks had only been saying that a small number of people could potentially experience an adverse reaction, I doubt there would have been much disagreement since that's going to be true of most vaccines and even most medicines in general. That's what this study has confirmed.

    But that's not what most of the anti-vaccine messaging was at all.
     
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    Today is not 2020, dude.
     
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    And in 2020 you could say what you wanted, but not without challenge or criticism.
     
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    Nothing was unexpected related to this study. All the potential adverse effects were already known — but rare. If you drink alcohol, eat junk food, take any medication — you are likely to suffer adverse effects one way or another so why get your knickers in a know over rare vaccine adverse effects?
     
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    ... so?
     
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    So what? Must be evil pushing that evil vaccine, right?
     
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    No. Expressing an opinion is not evil.
     
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    Denial of history.
     
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    glad the right finally gets that, no one promoting the vaccine is evil, not injecting chips in you or all the other nonsense out there
     
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    Those participants in this thread who advocate or shill that vaccines are safe and overwhelmingly harmless are prime examples of cognitive dissonance and the dangers of "group think" mentality.

    Reactionary denials, followed by a blind-trust, and unwavering obedience in both corporations and governments are the perfect recipes for a quick exit and departure from their current life.

    :angel:
     
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    Yes, you'll get challenged an criticised for that too. :cool:

    Tell me this; If all of the critics of COVID vaccines were censored and silenced, how come we all knew so much about them and their opinions?
     
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    It’s so much easier, when no evidence exists that vaccines are harmful/dangerous, to say it exists but nobody is allowed to talk about it rather than just admit there is overwhelming evidence that vaccines are safe and effective.

    People should be challenged when they depend on an all or nothing view of the vaccines. I see a lot of hypocrisy when those who decry vaccines as dangerous due to rare side-effects are saying so while they are taking other medications, drinking some alcohol, and eating unhealthy food. There is no such thing as a vaccine/medication that is 100 percent free of any adverse effects. Even vitamins can cause adverse effects in some people. People need to put their criticism in perspective related to the research and real dangers. The research has pointed to actual and potential problems with the vaccines that are very rare. The research suggests more research is needed. It would be beneficial to learn why the rare adverse effects occur to narrow it down. Is it genetic? Is it lifestyle? Males vs Females? Undiagnosed health conditions? Is it a combination of something? Further research never hurts.
     
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    The right has ALWAYS gotten that. Too bad that the left doesn't get it.

    I've never had any issues with anyone promoting the vaccine. They have every right to promote it (express their opinion about it).
     
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    Most people didn't know at first. However, eventually word gets out because censorship ultimately doesn't work.
     
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    the right was beating people up over their opinions and attacking them for wearing a mask
     
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    the left was beating people up over their opinions and attacking them for not wearing a mask

    Your point?
     
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    Well the correct response was and still is that of course there are side effects, rarely serious. The real question is the risk to benefit ratio. The benefits outweighed the risks, especially during the pandemic. This study does not even dispute that.
     
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    A rightist not wearing a mask can harm others around them. Wearing a mask cannot. But their other point appears to be that the right wasn't libertarian about things either.
     
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    Just remember folks that the willing recipients of the pharmaceutical companies mRNA jabs are now just another "upshot" in a long line of their GMO products.
     
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    How about a leftist not wearing a mask? How about a healthy person not wearing a mask?

    You probably still wear a mask and are jabbed to the hilt yet will blame me for getting you sick, even though I am healthy, because I am not wearing a mask around everywhere I go.

    You're now getting into the ridiculousness that is "Paradox M" and "Paradox V".

    Paradox M: My mask doesn't work so YOU must wear one too!
    Paradox V: My vaccine doesn't work so YOU must get one too!

    If YOU have a mask on, then YOU should be protected. If not, then obviously your mask doesn't work and you're asking me to do something that you admit doesn't work for yourself.

    If YOU have a vaccine, then YOU should be protected. If not, then obviously your vaccine doesn't work and you're asking me to receive something that you admit doesn't work for yourself.

    I thought people had moved on from such crazed irrationality. Obviously not.

    Right, because it can harm yourself instead.

    Meaningless words.
     
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    the point is, the right has not always gotten that as you claimed
     
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    Remember folks that according to Moderna's very own SEC filings they admit that their mRNA jabs are considered a "gene" therapy product by the FDA.
     
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    Increased cases of myocarditis (and other heart related issues), guillain-barre, blood clots, and numerous other health issues....... nothing to do with the mRNA jabs ;) ;) trust me ;) ;)
     
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