Nikki Haley? any chance??

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  1. gfm7175

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    Nikki Haley IS a Democrat.
     
  2. gfm7175

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    Both of those things are changing with Trump this cycle. Look for him to get roughly half of the Hispanic vote and about 20% of the Black vote.
     
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    Sure. Just like Wisconsin new congressional map?

    Did you see , did you see Toni Evers signed the new WI congressional Map? It is amazing ! The map test better than “Brats and Sauerkraut”
     
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    GWBush took 44% of the Hispanic vote in 2004. Trump is polling well enough among Blacks and Hispanics to threaten Biden. One would expect Nikki Haley to do even better.
    Trump polls better than ever with Black, Hispanic voters
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    The Washington Post
    https://www.washingtonpost.com › 2023/09/19 › tru...


    Sep 19, 2023 — Both numbers — and especially that for Black voters — could set modern-day records for a Republican in a presidential election. Trump in 2020 ...
     
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    You are right 44% and not 42% Hispanic support in2004 election.

    Polls? I don’t believe in polls.

    It’s laughable to think after 50 years African American will come back to GOP when trump is the candidate.

    I am not saying Gop can’t attract minority voters. W Bush is testament to how GOP can expand the party to minority Americans .

    But if you think minorities will come to GOP when trump is the head of GOP, then you have not paid any attention to US politics last 9 years.
     
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    I think minorities are moving toward the GOP in spite of Trump, not because of him. As I already posted, I think Haley would do even better.
    Why the move to the GOP? There are many reasons. For Blacks, a few are: Dems are soft on crime, which injures Blacks more than anyone; teachers' unions hamper charter schools; green policies reduce opportunities and increase costs; family values.
    For Hispanics I think it's mostly the same, but add Catholic pro-life sentiment to the list.
     
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    No I will vote again for Nikki.
     
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    She is less a democrat than Kamala who she will be running against.
     
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    It's a **** map, but that's what you get with corrupt justices on the state supreme court and corrupt RINOs in the legislature.

    Although, I highly doubt that liberals will quit whining about "gerrymandering" until they can gerrymander districts so oddly and so badly that they can "get control of the legislature back".
     
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    She's not going to be the Republican nominee.

    So you're going to write in Nikki's name then?
     
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    She is just as much a Democrat as Kamala. Neither Nikki nor Kamala will be the nominees later this year.

    Trump will be the R nominee. Either Biden or Newsom will be the D nominee. The D nominee could be someone else, but I don't think so.
     
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    You think minority moving toward GOP ?

    Here is the Hispanic vote for past 40 years.

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    Yes, Trump did better among Hispanic in 2020 then what he did in 2016. Trump definitely did better then Romney or McCain. Despite doing better more Hispanic voter for W Bush 24 years ago.

    Nov 3, 2020 here is an article about how African -American moving toward GOP in record number. An article in most liberal news site.

    Black men shift slightly toward Trump in record numbers, polls show (nbcnews.com)

    But on election day – according to exit polls – only 9% African American voted for Trump.


    Since W Bush left politics, no GOP politician spoke positively about minority Americans. You think calling Hispanic man “Bad Hombre” , and then expect them to vote for GOP? When police kill innocent African man , GOP say “ well if the man had father, he would know how to respect police officer” is going to turn those black men to vote for GOP? GOP really don’t understand minority.
     
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    Don’t you worry. We will make sure , DEMS control WI legislative branch next year!
     
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    Aweeeeeeeee shucks! You're soooo kind! :)
     
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    Nikki Haley represents the neocons and they have lost.

    One characteristic I noticed about neocons is really good snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. They're really good at being gracious losers.
     
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    Because she's not MAGA?

    Thank god! MAGA has ruined a once great party.
     
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    We shall see.
     
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    What do you think "neocons" means?
     
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    You are right – we shall see the same old , same old conservative vitriol toward minority but expect minority to vote for GOP.

    GOP will continue to demonize the Hispanics, Muslims , Arabs but expect them to vote for GOP. Conservative will blame young black men when they get shot by police, conservative will blame “ fatherless black men” for not behaving properly, but expect them to vote for GOP.

    And yea, may be trump will get 11% African-American vote in 2024 and conservative will take victory lap as “ Minority Americans are all coming to GOP, because democrats are party of crime”

    Conservative get 25%-35% Hispanic vote , only because some of the social issue.
     
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    No. Because she has the characteristics of a Democrat. For a few examples: She loves war mongering. She doesn't want people to be anonymous online. She fake cries while lying through her teeth about her cucked military husband. She makes use of Democrat talking points. She's aiming her campaign towards diehard "lifer" Democrat voters.

    Such characteristics of being a Democrat is what makes her a Democrat. She just dishonestly puts an R by her name to fool the diehard "lifer" Republican voters who don't know any better. That's how the Uniparty works. That's why MAGA exists (and the Tea Party before it... and the Ross Perot coalition before it... and so forth)

    Nope. MAGA is attempting to return the once great party into a great party once again... MAGA is actually listening to the will of the base Republican voter instead of ignoring it like the "professionally Republican" do. Otherwise, the "professionally Republican" are taking the party the way of the Whigs. Right now, Republicans aren't even an opposition party. They are merely a subsidiary of the Democrat Party.

    CURRENT PARTY PLATFORMS:

    Democrats --- Destroy the USA as fast as possible in order to 6uild 6ack 6etter ...
    Republicans --- Support the Democrat agenda while pretending to be an opposition party, so the destruction of the USA happens a bit slower whenever they're accidentally in power. Same end result though.

    Democrats --- use money to get power.
    Republicans --- use power to get money.
    Uniparty.

    Trump 2024 or bust! MAGA or bust!
     
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    You are disillusioned.

    MAGA are blowhards.
     
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    You are checkmated.

    TheKeefer has clearly tipped his king, offering nothing substantive in response to all the specific examples that I had brought up.
     
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    Lindsey Graham type members of the party. More on the lines of 1980s and 1990s conservatism strongly religious. Eagerness to go to war. Failing to do anything about the border. Supporting big government solutions such as the Patriot act.
     
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    If Nikki Haley loses by 30 points in her home state, as the polls say, it is 100% over. :truce:
     
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    Nikki Haley? any chance??

    Any chance that Trump has 4 cheeseburgers too many one night? Definitely.
     

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