Anti-vaxxers crumble as every prediction fails to come true

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The vast majority of those experiencing severe, long lasting symptoms are those with existing illnesses. The vast majority of illnesses are the result of consuming products deemed "Safe" by the FDA.

    The risk of severe, long term symptoms for healthy people is close to zero. We were told that consuming this product would prevent killing grandma, but that turned out to be false as well.

    My circle of friends are those that know how to maintain a healthy immune system naturally. We don't consume products that come from a factory. We are active and rarely get sick. When I was young, I caught every cold, flu, strep, etc. I was a sickly young man who became buddies with my doctor. Every time I would get sick, I got my prescription of antibiotics until they stopped working. The meds kept getting stronger until they didn't work at all. The last prescription almost killed me and left me with liver damage that took years to reverse.

    I started researching how to maintain a strong immune system and made some changes. I didn't get sick for 20+ years. Even my allergies went away. I never caught the first strain of covid even though I was exposed on a regular basis. I finally caught covid, but symptoms were mild and only lasted 1 day. (Of course I quarantined 5 days.)

    So there are those that look to the government and there are those that think for themselves. That is the biggest factor in illness.

    If you are elderly or frail, perhaps you should consider consuming trumps warp speed product. There is no benefit for healthy people.
     
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    DarkDaimon Well-Known Member

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    It amazes me the number of Americans who are willfully ignorant about basic science. They apparently are unaware that they are being manipulated by Internet trolls trying to boost up their views. They are essentially the flat earthers of modern medicine.
     
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  3. gipper

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    You think the vax is basic science? Hahahahahahahaha.

    I bet you think ivermectin is horse paste and the virus originated in a wet market and masks and social distancing works and lockdowns work, and Fauci is SCIENCE and Pfizer shouldn’t have to release any data for 100 years, and the vax prevents transmission and once injected you’ll NEVER get Covid. Hahahahahahahaha
     
  4. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Bare assertion fallacy - prove it!
    Bare assertion fallacy - prove it!
    Bare assertion fallacy - prove it!
    Bare assertion fallacy - prove it!
    Hearsay crap.
    Hearsay crap.
    Hearsay crap. Not only is that an appalling comparison and attempt at generalization it isn't even true!
    False dichotomy! Most people look to the medical profession! The ones that "think for themselves" can do so to their hearts content. It's when they go public with their batshit that it then causes problems for others!
    There's not much benefit for anyone! OIh, except for the "alternative health" people supplying this junk.
     
  5. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is an example of why Americans are sicker than ever. They are quick to consume trumps rushed product unless I can "prove" that healthy people are low risk. If you want to push a product, that burden is on you.

    Here are the facts:

    The main source of illness is the Standard American Diet (SAD)
    The vast majority of these unhealthy products are subsidized by the government.
    Consuming these items brings on obesity, diabetes, and lower ones immunity.
    Once symptoms show, pharma products are given to mask symptoms so that the patient may continue their unhealthy lifestyle.
    Once side effects show, more pharma products are given.
    The vast majority of those experiencing severe symptoms are those with existing illnesses.

    As we speak, obesity is out of control. 1/3 of Americans are diabetic or pre-diabetic.

    Its crazy for people to argue with eating a healthy diet and staying active.
     
  6. Betamax101

    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for what you claim are the facts.

    It's crazy for someone to make such a poor strawman. Nobody is arguing against this off topic hogwash.
     
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    Do you want to believe such things, or that he's increasing the chances of having a heart attack. I'd also think him more likely to have an adverse reaction to the shot that could cost him.
     
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    Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Luckily, as the title of the thread says, none of these antivax batshit claims have come true!
     
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    This is not my personal experience. A close buddy of mine was bed ridden after taking the clot shot. On the other hand, my son had Covid and quarantined. He was largely fine but, rules are rules so he stayed in his home. I brought him some groceries to leave on his porch and he yelled out from the window, "this is bull $hit!!!" So for some, the shot was more dangerous than the disease.
    Now, even though he and his now wife already had natural immunity, if they wanted to travel, they were still required to take the clot shot, that was more likely to harm than help them.

    That is some BS. And we should all be outraged.
     
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    Hahahahahaha
     
  11. Betamax101

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    All outraged, ok. More hearsay. Look at the thread title. It's pathetic antivax misinformation to label vaccines as "clot shots".

    None of the batshit antivax claims have come true.
    /Thread.
     
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    Keep laughing. :roll: If they test positive, they won't be allowed to compete. The chance a reaction to the vaccine taken at least two weeks before the competition would knock a 20-year-old out of the competition is far less than the increased chance of contracting covid by going unvaccinated.
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    Yeah, sure.

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    Yet you love Dumb Don’s “miraculous” vax.
     
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    What’s really laughable is you hate Don, but love his clot shot. Are you confused?
     
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    Vaccinations are literally science. It is the scientific understanding of the immune system that allowed for their creation. To deny this just shows ignorance.

    As for what I think... no, no, yes*, yes*, and yes*, Fauci is not "SCIENCE", he is a doctor, Pfizer and other pharmaceutical companies should release their data, the vaccine does not does not prevent transmission, and I got COVID after my vaccine, but I had a very minor case, while my wife's aunt didn't get the vaccine, got COVID, and died.

    It seems you do not trust corporations, the government, doctors or scientists. Just who do you trust?


    * If people actually follow it.
     
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    Vaccines aren’t science. The covid clot shot isn’t a vaccine, by the traditional definition.

    I never considered taking the vax for one second. Why would anyone take an untested injection from a known criminal cabal who’s goal is profits?
     
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    Yes they are.
    It isn't the pathetic antivaxx label of "clot shot" and there is no traditional definition. All there was, was a different delivery method.

    Thanks for sharing your own personal failures.
    It was tested, it's not a "known" anything from the kind of people you listen to! All businesses strive to make profits.
     
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    How are vaccines not science? Louis Pasteur, a scientist and the father of germ theory, created several vaccines himself, including rabies, which has saved the lives of many people and animals. Yes, the COVID vaccine is different from traditional vaccines, but only because, instead of using a live or dead virus, it uses segments of Messenger RNA (mRNA) to trick some of the body's cells into making DNA fragments of the virus which trains the immune system recognize and attack the COVID-19 virus. As for being untested, the COVID vaccine was thoroughly tested with the same standards as all other vaccines

    I hope this clears up your misunderstanding of the COVID vaccine.

    I did notice that you didn't answer my question, so I will ask again, if you don't trust corporations, the government, doctors, or scientists, who do you trust?
     
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    Do you not know big pharma has control of “science” as it relates to HC? Do you not know even after all the corruption surrounding the Covid vax that’s been exposed, the science behind vaccines is entirely untrustworthy?
     
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    DarkDaimon Well-Known Member

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    Please supply evidence supporting your claims.
     
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    I don't know how to parse this any other way--you're saying most illness is caused by "products" (medicines) the FDA approves. Hogwash.
    Even for teenagers, the risk to health (not just death) from contracting covid when they're unvaccinated vs. vaccinated is greater by far than the risk associated with getting the vaccine.
    This is absolute nonsense. Vaccines have provided protection to seniors.
    Some older people have unhealthy immune systems because they're old or have medical conditions.
    Doctors sometimes give drugs to folks to shut them up.
    I hate to tell you, but a lot of people have been taking better care of themselves. My wife taught nutrition and cooking for decades.
    What does this mean? My wife taught about eating right. She wasn't one to "look to the government."
    We've had billions of people taking covid vaccines. Calling it "warp speed" and "untested" is a stretch.
    Flat wrong. Risk-reward favors the vaccine, even for younger adults. Covid is a nasty, damaging disease even for younger people, and also sometimes for people who catch it multiple times.
     
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    Did you know it doesn't?
    False. There is no corruption surrounding it. Lots of batshit though.
    Stop following batshit websites- they expose only their ability to influence the gullible.
    Nope and how would you know?
     
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    Sorry. Until you get informed and stop consuming statist propaganda, we can’t debate this issue.
     
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    You won’t accept the evidence. You only accept evidence provided by big pharma and big government.

    Sad really.
     
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