Undocumented Immigrants Have Right to Own Guns, Judge Rules

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    But you can't legally call anyone a 'felon' unless they are convicted.

    I saw Trump commit crimes with my own eyes and ears, and I can call him a criminal, but not a felon.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    I know, sorry 'bout that. When I say 'gun worshippers' I mean the folks that think that the best solution is guns everywhere without any regulation. They want teachers to have guns on campuses. One can own a gun and believe in gun regulation, and I should have qualified the statement.
     
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    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Whatever.
     
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    If the authorities make contact with them and they have it on record then it's pretty cut and dried
     
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    Citizens
     
  6. The Mello Guy

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    So not permanent residents? Do they have free speech at least? Can they be forced to incriminate themselves? Searched with no warrant or cause?
     
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    Well, the 2nd amendment says it is the right of the people. Are they people?
     
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    If illegals weren't here you wouldn't even be talking about it.
     
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    As 'the people' is used in the BOR?

    Yes.

    "the people" refers to the entire populace under the jurisdiction of the united states, not simply citizens. The right is applicable to the people, not the militia or purely its prospective members.

    See 1st and 4th as well.
     
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    Of course I'm not "perfectly fine." What kind of a question is that? Geebus, do you think I'm a monster, or what?

    I was providing information, not making a judgment. I'll leave the knee-jerking to you.
     
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    There is NOBODY who has any desire to extend voting rights beyond those who are citizens of the US.
     
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    Who is proposing "gun grabbing"?

    There are states where there can be court orders to remove guns in cases of domestic violence.

    Is that what you're talking about?

    What ignited the revolution was denial of representation.
     
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    Who says Democrats want any such thing? Dang, man ... how deep is your hatred?

    The 2nd says what it says. It mentions nothing about any requirements whatsoever.
     
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    No one is grabbing guns. Admit your hyperbole.

    See #120.
     
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    Bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    https://www.newsweek.com/trumps-inc...ell-maga-nation-rise-against-mandates-1666123
     
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    It depends on the state. I put a link in here somewhere that shows each state's regulations. Some states don't require much in the way of IDs. Plus, we are not the only country with a criminal database.
     
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    Please focus:

    Pro 2nd people claim the 2nd confirms an inalienable right, do you agree that is what they claim?
     
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    Except it doesn’t have that in the amendment
    It says “the people”
     
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    These undocumented immigrants are motivated to make money and pay off the cartels for allowing them to get here. They will be ordered to buy firearms and give them to the cartel members here in the US, then report them stolen.
     
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    you deny that people like Feinstein would have pushed to confiscate guns if she had enough support?
     
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    how many times are you going to ask this silly question. I have said at least 100 times on this forum that people can lose that right through due process of law. Do you not actually bother reading what I wrote or do you think it is an effective technique to continue to ask questions that you already know have been answered?
     
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    Increased seats isn’t voting and their American born kids are citizens.
    But yah some are letting people who live in the area vote in local elections even if they aren’t citizens.
     
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    The point is, democrats see illegals as a sound strategy to increase their power
     
  25. The Mello Guy

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    Then republicans should pass the bipartisan border bill
     

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