Trump Says There's Going To Be A "Bloodbath" If He Doesn't Get Elected

All this obvious Fake News sure helps DJT.
Makes you wonder if Trump is paying the MSM to impeach what's left of their credibility right before an election, or if it is just more free love from the DP/RP establishment.

 

LMAO at the term "Fake News":
Trump's EXACT Words:
Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath, for the whole — that’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country.
***Title of the News Story:
Trump Says There's Going To Be A "Bloodbath" If He Doesn't Get Elected
^A 100% Perfect Characterization of Trump's Exact Statement!

 

Say the rest of the quote then, if you don't feel like it creates the same flaimbaiting click value, the rest of us will understand why.

If you are so worried about the use of the term, do you flame your own side for the use of the term? no? Why not?

 

Duty? Maybe not. The right to? Yup. They can prevent any item from foreign shores arriving here(by prevent I mean make a law making it illegal to import them) as they did with original Kinder eggs, pharmaceuticals, asbestos, and so many more things(my wife had a long list of illegal to import items at her previous job in logistics for a major international shipping company) that are just not allowed to be sold here. So they have the right and the government has used it over and over again.

BTW, this isn’t about what American auto manufacturers can do, it’s about what a Chinese Auto manufacturer will possibly do and what the government can do about that. And they(the US government) already have a list of vehicles you cannot import to the US.

Now that I think on it, yes they do have a duty. They dictate certain features of a car to be sold here already. There’s a decent sized list of items you must and items you cannot put in new cars. Mostly safety related.

 

Trump backed out of the TPP: our biggest trade agreement that would have made us FAR more competitve with China on a global stage. but, yes, I do

. . . ALL tariffs do harm to the country that levies them . . . we've known this since at least 1776 . . . dude named Adam Smith wrote a whole book about it . . . that was the WHOLE POINT behind the original formulation of capitalism as an economic theory.

You seriously need me to explain why it is harmful to pay more money for the same thing? Really? Literally every intro to econ book covers this.

Look, let's start with the fact (one that Trump STILL DOESN'T ****ING UNDERSTAND) that IMPORTERS pay tariffs. Not EXPORTERS. China doesn't pay a cent of those tariffs. American importers do. And, yes, that can help SPECIAL INTERESTS in the country, but it doesn't help the country as a whole. It would be like putting a tax on all automobiles when they were first coming out in order to save the horse and carriage industry. Yes, that helps the horse and carriage industry, but it harms the rest of the country. In economics, this is sometimes called the fallacy of the seen and the unseen.

I see you've never heard of the TPP. The TPP would have positioned us to take the place of China in trade with other countries. That was the whole point.

There's also the fact that, yes, this will cause costs to rise for Chinese imports (again, bad for the customers and most producers, good for a special interest group of producers), BUT THAT ALSO MEANS THAT LOCALLY PRODUCED GOODS WILL ALSO GET MORE EXPENSIVE.

You guys love to pretend that you care about inflation, but here you guys are trying to deliberately make it skyrocket.

Why? Are you seriously that desperate to run away?

 

Of all of the restrictions you mentioned, how many were actually passed through legislation and how many were unilateral presidential decrees with no oversight from another branch of government?

 

Restricting cancer causing asbestos, or cars which do not meet US road safety requirements makes heck of a lot more sense than government trying to kill competition / free markets, and denying US consumers more affordable options.

 

He wouldn't have to pay them. They'll gladly do it for free.

 

The TPP was a bad deal for the US. It much better to have trade agreements with individual countries.

Paying fair prices is beneficial for US consumers, wirkers, and the US economy. The 100 year plan of the Chinese Communist Party for world domination includes creating economic harm in the US. Subsidizing Chinese companies to create manipulated low prices that harm US companies is part of the CCP. Applying tariffs to those subsidized products has nothing to do with protectionism. It is a policy based on fairness and a policy which counteracts the CCP 100 year plan. Goods produced in the US will not increase in price. Price inflation under Trump was ~ 1%.

 

There will be a bloodbath when he is elected, by a wide margin of electoral votes, turning the country into a sea of red. Trump leads in every single swing state and every single betting venue gives the odds to Trump.

 

Proving that MSM = FakeNews is not a very good strategy for his enemies.

“Every time the media exaggerates or misleads on a specific story, it provides an opportunity for Trump and his praetorian guard to claim that the media exaggerate or mislead on every story. This has been the go-to strategy for Trumpworld from the Russian-collusion story onward. And it has worked.”
LOS ANGELES TIMES/ THE DISPATCH, Stop Making a Martyr of Donald Trump, He benefits enormously from media overreaction to his irresponsible rhetoric., By Jonah Goldberg, Mar 20, 2024.
https://thedispatch.com/article/stop-making-a-martyr-of-donald-trump/

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/sto...-2024-biden-auto-industry-ohio-jonah-goldberg

But it sure does help DJT expand his base of support and raise more money!

 

Looks like a gullibility bath. It does not appear that their was any pause or reflection in this case.

 

Trump’s enemies may be channeling the early Greek stoics, or the Mormans, or Marcus Aurelius …

“So, this is less of a hippy-dippy free love sex ubiquity vibe, so much as it is a society that has no need of relationships
REDDIT“I didn't realise early greek stoics idealised free love.”
(Emphasis mine)
https://www.reddit.com/r/Stoicism/comments/pncdym/i_didnt_realise_early_greek_stoics_idealised_free/

 

Yep part of the Dems attempt to turn over the 2016 election. And again now by these PROTECTORS OF DEMOCRACY.

 

So why the need to take his statement of the context in which it was presented?

Tell me did you REALLY miss that or just choose to cherry pick to misrepresent it. If the latter you didn't think anyone would notice?

 

You think the automotive industry being not being hurt is a civil war?

It was a prediction not a threat.

 

Yes, when MSM = Fake News is the problem more Fake News is not the solution.
MSN
Rogan blasts media over 'deceptive' coverage of Trump 'bloodbath' comment Joe Rogan has lashed out at “corporate media,” accusing them of “deceptive” coverage following Donald Trump's warning of a “bloodbath” in the automotive...
23 hours ago [3/21/24]
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/poli...verage-of-trump-bloodbath-comment/ar-BB1keXKL

The Truth, The Whole Truth and Nothing But The Truth is the only way back to credibility for the MSM.

 

It's hilarious when we see the mindless repetition of the word of the day. Especially when multiple "Get Trumpers" repeat it ad infinitum ad absurdum ad infinitum.

 

It reminds me of "fight like hell."

 

Trumps gives lots of speeches. To what speech on January 6 are you referring?

By your description I believe you are slightly off. Trump didn't ask people to come to DC during a speech on January 6. The speech you are referring to was given weeks earlier. On Dec 12 Trump responded to a Tweet which mentioned a group of people were planning on having a march in Washington on January 6 when the Senate convened to certify the vote. It was a grass roots protest they called StopTheSteal (not organized by Trump). The plan was to have a rally at the Lincoln memorial, then march to the capital building to protest the election certification. On Dec 12 Trump responded to the tweet saying, “Wow! Thousands of people forming in Washington (D.C.) for Stop the Steal. Didn’t know about this, but I’ll be seeing them! #MAGA.”. On Dec 18 he gave a speech in which he said, "We won the Presidential Election, by a lot! FIGHT FOR IT. Don’t let them take it away!" There was no reference to January 6 StopTheSteal and this wasn't a call to violence.

The rally was supposed to begin at 9:0 AM. On the morning of January 6 at around 7:30 there were only 2 or 3 dozen people there. Kind of a disappointment. There were vendors who had gotten licensing approval to cater to the rally-goers on the mall. They were still setting up their booths. Several strangers met up and formed a small impromptu group under a tree and had small talk while waiting. As things turned out the group spent much of the day getting to know each other and watching things unfold. Of the dozen members of the group, 4 were Democrats who were also concerned about the veracity of the elections and all the recent changes to the voting process. It was still early so it still wasn't clear how many would show. At around 9:00 AM there were 300-400 people there. The vendors were permitted to open at 9:00 AM. Seeing the prices the vendors were charging most took a step back in near horror. Burgers where $14.75 (Pre-Biden prices), a coke was &11.75, fries were a flat $10. A combo was 30$ (with a tip jar!). Not big jumbo burgers, huge cokes or baskets of fries. Think kids meal size burger of school quality, 8 oz Dixie cup and a small fry. Kind of a captive audience as parking was almost nowhere to be found and the flat fees were high. A long walk was to be expected if someone left to return later. Still, deciding to forego the bank for a loan to cover lunch for 4 was the better option. Crowd was still unexpectedly sparse and all appearances were a short jaunt to the store wouldn't miss much excitement.

The crowd had grown to no more than 3 to 4 thousand after shopping spree. Talk of a Trump rally miles away spurred debate about whether the hike was worth it. Extra food was being handed out in the form of sandwiches, peanut butter crackers, cooler sodas, etc. Vendor came over and said we can't handout food. Have to have a vendor license, which according to him was $20K. Response was, "We aren't selling it and the group pitched in and brought it on their own. You priced us out." He walked off mumbling something about reporting to the capital police. The speeches were about static and crowd noise. Unintelligible from the trees. Passersby mentioned it was soon to move to the capitol building itself (not far away). Not wanting to get into it with the vendors it was decided to give them their space and move towards the capitol building to beat the crowds.

The capitol building is shown below.

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It helps to see it from this perspective. There are two flights of stairs left and right leading up to the entrance in the middle. At the top of the stairs is a landing area about 30 feet above the grass. Huge stairway! Food was handed out. With no place to sit many used the stairs. No guns were apparent. Crowd was somewhat calm. A few were shouting out slogans, trying to be noticed. Soccer moms sitting on the steps feeding their kids. Happy they didn't end up having to shell out a C-note. Steps were somewhat full with diners having to move aside for those walking up to the landing area. Landing was pretty full. Crowd was quite peaceful but disorganized. No one seemed to know what to do, what was next, or where to go. Many had been walking in and out of the capitol to look around all morning.

The Capitol Police were in two groups at the back of the landing on either side of the door. They occupied about the last 10 feet standing against the building behind these metal barricades remaining away from the crowd on the landing. They appeared to be making their presence known, giving the demonstrators room on the landing to move in and out. Some distance away under the trees on the left, handouts soon ran out.

A group of about 50 conspicuous "people" appeared and began milling around those in the grassy circle. They were all dressed in matching garb, had tight stretchy black Balaclava masks exposing only eyes, mouths and noses. Camo pants and shirts over tight olive drab stretchy undershirts. All were in impeccable shape as the under shirts were tight fitting showing off their physique. Looked paramilitary. No guns visible. Several approached and said, "Come on, Let's storm the capitol". In response someone said, "What do you mean storm the capitol? There is no need to storm it, it has been open all day long and people have been walking in and out. Who are you, FBI? Army?" Likely what everyone was thinking. The response was, "You know I could have you arrested just for saying that.", as he invaded the demonstrator's space. Evidently his superior, tugged on his shirt and said, "Cmon, lets go over here." This group then congregated at the bottom of both stairways below most of the crowd. The small group commented they were obviously FBI or commandos or some form of government and watched from a distance on the grass.

Not long thereafter you could sirens. Someone walking away from the Capitol said someone just got shot! This was upsetting as everyone had been on their best behavior and were glad it had been so pleasant and peaceful. It was learned later the person who was shot was a woman in her late 70's who had been shot by a Capitol Police (CP) officer who mishandled his weapon and had an accidental discharge. At the time most in the group were unaware of the circumstances. The CP who were against the building on the landing (right side of image) lifted their metal barricades and began forcibly pushing those on the landing back down the stairway. According to later testimony they were trying to clear a path for the paramedics. At almost the same time the paramilitary guys began pushing hard into the crowd from the bottom of both sets of stairways. They were joined in by several idiots in the crowd. Those on the right side of the landing were getting absolutely crushed back down the stairs and had the added disadvantage of being on sloped stairs with huge drop-offs to either side. A mother and her 3 children having just finished lunch were absolutely in a panic, as she tried to lift one above the fray as the other two disappeared under the crush. If you have ever been to a rock concert where the crowd starts pushing toward the stage you have a sense of it. Only this was from both sides on steep marble stairs with no way off. Many weren't twenty somethings, they were your average everyday soccer moms. People who were near the sides either jumped or were forced off the stairway. The ones at the top fell quite some distance. The crowd started pushing back against the CP in an attempt to relieve the pressure. This is what you see in the still photo you posted earlier. This isn't angry insurrectionists attempting to overrun the police and storm the capitol. It is a still image showing the melee at the top of the stairs.

On the other stairway (image left) the CP moved their metal barricades in a more haphazard manner. Some CP moved toward the doorway and began forcing people back into the capitol. The majority of that group moved towards the crowd like the other stairway. They were late to press forward and didn't have sufficient numbers after splitting. The paramilitary from the bottom had already started pushing the crowd up the stairs on the left onto the landing. A twenty something year old attempted to jump from the top of the steps (many others too) onto the railway of the landing. He missed and was hanging from the edge. He lost his grip and fell quite awkwardly onto his head. He was hurt bad and wasn't moving. Suspected broken neck. Several demonstrators were trying to get him help while others jumped or fell off the sides.. The ambulance on arrival ended up treating him instead of the woman inside who was shot by the CP. Perhaps she was treated by paramedics arriving from the other side (seems I heard that during the hearings or from the transcripts). On level ground at the top of the landing it appeared as if the improved footing proved decisive for the demonstrators. The left side was crushed forward from the paramilitary at the bottom and the CP on the left quickly realized it would be a losing battle. The CP left of image formed on the doorway and pushed those who remained between them and the door through the doorway into the capitol, then formed their barricade line at the door. Lots of confusion and pandemonium. Lots in the crowd were quite agitated and fighting back.

Inside I'm of the understanding many were forced down the hallway into the foyer of the Senate chambers. There too images have been posted of many crushed against the doors of the Senate chamber. The chamber doors were locked and barricaded. Those trapped were likewise crushed and melees broke out there too. From the investigation some demonstrators took the South hallway towards the house chambers. Others invaded the offices of prominent representatives. No clue the extent of the damage, but Pelosi's office was entered by some idiots. There are some in every crowd. They posted images sitting at Pelosi's desk and one of them took a dump in her coffee cooler.

The truth of the matter is far from the claims by the left it was some kind of armed insurrection. No guns were apparent although testimony from the FBI indicated 1 reported seeing a gun in the waistband of a demonstrator as he climbed one of the trees. I hardly think such a small crowd of 3000 largely comprised of unarmed soccer moms, kids and couch potato dads would constitute an insurrection. All were calm and peaceful throughout the day until all hell broke loose. Many behaved really badly in the ensuing turmoil. No one from the group under the tree left the grass and left soon after the conflagration. During testimony one image was presented and several in the photo were identified as FBI. All were dressed similar to the paramilitary group. What occurred on 1/6 was mostly due to happenstance. Had the woman not been shot accidentally (I'm convinced it wasn't on purpose) inside the capitol things would have remained peaceful in all likelihood. As for the CPs move on the crowd, unless something says otherwise, it was likely just really bad police work and crowd control.

Anyone well versed in crowd control knows that if you move against a crowd with barricades and batons, without leaving them any avenue of retreat it is not going to achieve the desired results. As for the paramilitary group mosh pitting from the bottom of the steps, I see no excuse or justification. All appearances indicate this was a purposeful act intended to cause a riot. They could well have been skin heads, Neo-Nazi's, Fascists, or lunatic MAGA agitators as claimed by the Left. My guess is they weren't. Someone WANTED to cause it to get out of hand for use as a political weapon against the Right. Very likely it was a false flag operation instigated by SOMEONE with something to gain in claiming it was an insurrection. Similar to the Nazi's burning down the Reichstag in Germany, or Putin blowing up several apartment buildings in 1999 to provide an excuse to invade Chechnya, killing hundreds of his own people in the process. Now that was a comedy of errors. One of Putin's colleagues from his KGB days announced a 4th bombing at a presser BEFORE it actually happened! He read off the location and time (which hadn't yet arrived)! Shortly thereafter, Russian citizens called the police when they saw 4 guys loading bags of white powder into the basement of that same apartment building. The police arrested the 4 men who also turned out to be Putin's colleagues from his KGB days. Putin personally released them without so much as a hearing. The bags of white powder and the detonators were identical in composition and style as the explosives used in the previous 3 bombings. Yet he STILL blamed it on the Chechens and invaded. Only in Russia could the population be that naive and complacent. The subsequent war in Chechnya was horrific and rife with human rights violations and murder. Lets not follow the example of Russians and see January 6 for what it was. Mayhem and a massive failure in effective crowd control. Insurrection though? Not on your life.

 

Exactly what a research institute would say, VERSUS an economic bloodbath.

NOW, here are two examples of an opinion;

1. If Trump doesn’t get elected, the U.S. Auto Industry will lose a significant part of its market share.

2. Trump, Oct 2020; “If Biden gets elected, the market will crash”

 

So what?

 

Don't know anything about Rogan but I would put it as not the media being so deceptive they don't have to be, they can be as openly biased and untruthful as they want because they know they can get away with it. Take something out of context such as to make someone look racist. Then when pointed out it was taken out of context comes the "Bet we know what he REALLY meant", and "Well look what he said in the past (which is probably just another lie on their part) and the endless diversions and dodges until they can cherry pick the next word and totally misrepresent it.

Hey he's his own worst enemy with his bluster and mouth but not nearly the evil white racist supremacist violent insurrectionist. I mean Joe Scarborough should be run off with the way he first knee-jerked it and got it absolutely wrong and then tried to take it down and then DOUBLE DOWNED on the blatant lie here.

 

It’s election time….

Biden, Oct 2020; “Anyone responsible for so many Covid deaths should not be President

Biden, Feb 2024; “A second Donald Trump presidency would be a nightmare for the country”

Trump, Oct 2020; “If Biden gets elected, the market will crash”

Trump, Mar 2024; “If I’m not elected, there will be a bloodbath”

To me, “all of the above”, in one ear and out the other.
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Now, let’s discuss the facts…..

Reference to our national security;

Question; Would Trump have given ByteDance an ultimatum?

Answer; NOPE…..After a meeting with a Tik Tok investor/GOP donor, Trump switched to a NAY.

Question; Who really cares about our National Security, Biden or Trump?