Trump can pay smaller bond in civil fraud case as judge sets April date for hush money trial

And the short bus is prob gonna be for the person saying they couldn't run their business in ny anymore and then when he's corrected he makes some dumbass comment about "for now" lol

 

You are correct here, trumpers are experts in this area.

How will commenting on a topic introduced by another poster make me feel better?

This does prove the two tiered justice system for the elites vs everyone else but I expect nothing else.

Do you think this will be completely reversed on appeal? Will you accept the decision if it isn’t?

 

You seriously don't understand how real estate investment works but it's almost as good as you saying up Truth social being worthless yet the day before the IPO the merging company soared 35% as you were typing lol.

 

I understand that he built it in the early 1980s and 40 years later he still doesn't own it, and in 2021 he had to get an additional mortgage from GMAC Commercial because the $10B man needed money.

I understand THAT!

 

For the record trumps stock is going to go down tomorrow

 

No you quoted the comment as if it makes it any better that you didn't know what you were talking about to begin with lol

And you've doubled and tripled down on the fact you didn't know what you were talking about

 

The case was solid, which is why Trump lost.

In all seriousness, the idea that there is no victim here is beyond ridiculous. Trump Casino anyone…Bueller….…Bueller….Bueller….

Falsely inflating the value of a property, that has investors is illegal, hence the fine. The idea that it is victimless is beyond disingenuous.

Trump Casino’s is the perfect example;
Trump tells investors that the casino is valued at $100 million. So investors pony up their money and get “shares” based on the amount they invest, and it is calculated to the overall value of the company. So in Trump casinos case he told them the casino was worth hundreds of millions of $$$$, and when they saw the books and saw it was loosing money, he sold HIS shares based on that value, and by the time everyone else tried to get out, their wasn't any value to cover their losses.

THAT IS ILLEGAL !!!!!!!

The same principal is a play right now with this case: Trump overvalued the properties to get loans, when he knew that the properties weren’t worth the value he stated. But here’s the real rub, Trump submitted documents to the bank that were false. Hence Trump broke the law…..

Now I know you are all going to claim “who’s the victim here”……well, had Trump been unable to pay back the loan, the collateral he claimed to have (the inflated values he created), the banks and and the state would be on the hook.

If you think this is selective prosecution, do me a favor, go to the bank tomorrow and tell them you want a home equity loan, but before you do that, fill out a bunch of documentation falsifying your income, your wealth, your assetts, etc, and tell me what you think they will do to you ?

 

What do you think they would do if I had a big 5 accounting firm do my numbers like Trump did?

The fault for the numbers is on the accounting firm.

With that being said, that dumbass clown Engoron based the value of his property on TAX assessments and not market value. Hence his absurdly low valuations.

Which means that now in the state of NY if you attempt to sell your house or business and represent it at its market value and not at its tax assessed value, you're engaging in fraud in NY.

But we ALL know NY isn't going to do that to anyone other than Trump.

Which means he wins a selective prosecution case with no problem

 

No, this has been the crux of the entire issue. Trump has overinflated his values when selling, but when paying taxes he has lowered them to benefit himself. That is the entirety of this case.

And Trump is loosing. We can debate the fine all we want, but you and I both know that the case against him was won based on the facts that he is doing exactly that.

 

... let me try it this way

Where did Engoron get the valuations for the properties he is saying Trump is lying about?

the CRUX of the case is that he lied about his valuations. Where did Engoron get his valuations from?

If you need some help I'll help you. He got them from the comptroller who got them from tax assessments

Name ONE person who has ever represented a home or business at tax value and not market value when attempting to sell it who wasn't in foreclosure.

Don't worry. I'll wait.

 

And if he loses ......?? These delay tactics are nothing more than basic GAMBLING. He is gambling to win the role of POTUS.......so he can clear himself of al these pesky legal issues that HE created. That is not smart. It is just irresponsible...........which is what Trump is.
His pitiful self serving narcissistic , blame laying and tactless speach after court is an embarrassment to observe....let alone consider that he might dwell in the oval office again. He always sounds like a petulant child.........but he was worse than ever and is a new low. He cannot handle his emotions in a mature and responsible way.

And that would be ok with his supporters?? Would it be ok if someone on the left created the same level of legal mess and behaved the same way??? One can hear the RW now....screeching their disdain.

He has ten days to come up with the cash. Needless to say, the Trump Theater goes on. and will be over shadowing most other news. But Trump knows that drama / theater sells.

 

No reasons yet given for the decision?

 

Trump > Biden. That simple

 

Hmm good question, id like to see the actual language used and maybe i just missed it. Ima dig.

 

I know you obviously don't believe this but let's assume for a moment that these are political prosecutions by corrupt democrat operatives as Trump believes is happening.

What other choice does he have but to delay and get elected? If they're engaging in a corrupt unconstitutional political prosecution, you can't take the chance of going to court because they're going to **** you whether you're guilty or not. Your only option is to delay and win the election. There is no other option.

 

I want to see how the Judges got around what I thought was a statutory requirement about appeal bonds.

 

He cannot pardon himself from a civil judgement.

 

And normally one would say well an unbiased jury of your peers will not let that happen. But he wasn't even ALLOWED a jury by that corrupt scumbag engoron

 

Nice catch !!. It might be intentional or just bad English poor (sentence formation)

 

Wasn't he given a choice?? I understood he was .(and then regretted his choice and blamed the system)

 

Such a mature attitude towards good governance...

 

No he was not. Engoron didn't allow it.

 

The same argument applies to a fair, uncorrupted prosecution though...the ONLY strategy he has is to delay and hope to win an election, whereby he can quash the charges...whether you consider them to be fair charges or not..

 

Oh bro. Mature attitude went out the window when yall paid a foreign intelligence agent to fabricate a dossier talking about how Trump peed on hookers in his plane paid for by Russia and used that to initiate an unconstitutional spying process on his campaign. Then when that didn't work you spent four years demonizing him for farting hard and trying to remove him from office. Then when that didn't work and he left office your side has used multiple democrats to attempt to throw him in prison for HUNDREDS of years. Which is effectively a death sentence.

All I can say is yall better hope Trump is nicer than me. Cause if you did that bs to me and I won... to say there would be hell coming upon my vengeance for all of those involved would be the understatement of the century. I would do everything in my power to smash those pieces of trash into the ground like the cockroaches they are, especially given I didn't have to worry about reelection.

 

No see in a fair uncorrupted prosecution you can use facts to defend yourself. And you can get a jury (and not an innominate one)

But in a corrupt political prosecution the judge denies you ability to have a jury and wholesale ignores testimony from one of the foremost forensic accountants in the COUNTRY and completely ignores that no one on the PLANET has ever offered their property for sale and represented it at taxable value and not market value, he ignores that your "victim" testified that they were happy with the results and would love to do business with you again and then rules against you. And then creates an absurdly high penalty while using the incorrect calculation in the hopes you couldn't pay it so they can seize your assets.

That's what happens in a political prosecution. So no you don't go to court. You delay. And then smash them into the ground when you win.