Federal judge accuses the DOJ of hypocrisy for ‘flouting’ Biden impeachment inquiry subpoenas

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  1. fullmetaljack

    fullmetaljack Well-Known Member

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    Who are you to tell me what I support ? I can, and do, speak for myself.

    What weaponization ?
    That's a false statement fabricated by Trumpers who want their criminal to be immune from justice and due process just on his and their say so.

    As for due process, I am all for it. For example, let the Orange Stain post a legit appeal bond. If the AG wants to question the validity of the bond, that's due process.
    If the DOJ has a reason for instructing their members to ignore subpoenas, especially from politicized, weaponized House committees trying to perform political hatchet jobs that have nothing to do with justice, then you need to respect their legal opinion and support them.

    Let the trials begin.
     
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    If we go off of precedence from the previous administration, yes.
     
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  3. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    So you agree government officials have absolute immunity? Are you advocating all officials who have been prosecuted some in jail be immediately released?
     
  4. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    Yes you do and why I said what I did.

    What we have been witnessing for over 4 years.

    That's a false statement by anti-Trumpers who want to criminalize lawful acts and deny due process in order to win political power and put their political opponents in prison.

    Why did you support this illegitimate weaponized one then? Why have you supported any of this? Why do you support what this BIDEN APPOINTED judge said is outrageous hypocracy by the DOJ?

    Before due process?
     
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    Judge Calls Out Biden DOJ's Blatant Double Standard

    “Are you kidding me?”

    'Those are four words that no lawyer wants to hear from a judge in a hearing. But that was not the least of it for Justice Department lawyers fighting House subpoenas into the Biden corruption scandal.'

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    'US District Judge Ana Reyes slammed the DOJ for stonewalling Congress on the subpoenas while imprisoning figures like former Trump adviser Peter Navarro for doing the same thing.'

    Yes. That's the corrupt Biden Administration in a nutshell.

    'The Biden administration has blocked the testimony of prosecutors Mark Daly and Jack Morgan, who were involved in an inexplicable decision of the Justice Department to allow major felonies against Hunter Biden to lapse.'

    That's easy. His last name is Biden, and not Trump.

    'In prior hearings, IRS whistleblowers testified that they had an agreement on the table to extend the statute of limitations on the crimes, but special counsel David Weiss allowed the period to lapse without any explanation. Since the DOJ was in the midst of plea negotiations, it made no sense that the DOJ would simply kill potential charges.'

    Weiss is a corrupt fixer.
     
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    Since, by your current statements and history of false statements and false accusations of “weaponization”, you clearly have no standing to accuse me of supporting something that doesn’t exist. I, for one, want to see due process, not a process corrupted by Orange Stain sycophants desperate to hold onto political power that they don’t deserve , especially those in Congress who repeated the Big Lie and attempted to legitimize the illegal attempt to overturn a free, fair and secure election. That is not a matter of opinion and can never be forgiven .
     
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    Tell to whom does this due process apply, Smith or Trump?

    And let's not forget that PRESIDENT BIDEN stated that person who refuse to answer to Congressional subpoenas' should be prosecuted. Did he in his documented feeble mindedness forget to mention that only applies to Trump and his supporters?
     
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    Which government official is jailed?
     
  9. fullmetaljack

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    Why, both, of course.

    What was his quote and in what context ? Are you attempting to derive an absolute unconditional rule from a quote ?

    And lets not forget that the Orange Stain ordered White House staff not to testify before Congress. If he's not feeble minded then he was obstructing justice and covering up his crimes.
     
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    One big difference. Trump was a good president. Crooked Joe is bad.
     
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  11. fullmetaljack

    fullmetaljack Well-Known Member

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    Wrong.
    Trump was , for a long time, a criminal engaged in fraud, attempted to reverse the results of a free, fair, and secure election through a seditious act of violence, and refused to return classified documents. He was an awful president, probably even the worst in US history.There's a lot more, but, basically, the Orange Stain makes Saint Joe look like ............ a saint.

    So much for your "difference".
     
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    Has Gym Jordan ever responded to his subpoena?
     
  13. Bluesguy

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    Wrong again, did you ever take US Civics in school.

    Biden says DOJ should prosecute those who defy January 6 committee subpoenas


    President Joe Biden on Friday said those who refuse subpoenas from the House select committee investigating the January 6 riot at the US Capitol should be prosecuted by the Justice Department.

    Asked by CNN’s Kaitlan Collins what his message is to those who refuse subpoenas from the panel, Biden said, “I hope that the committee goes after them and holds them accountable.”

    Pressed on whether he thinks those people should be prosecuted by the department, the President said, “I do, yes.”.
    https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/15/politics/biden-doj-prosecute-january-6-subpoenas/index.html

     
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    Yes and the committee dropped it.
     
  15. fullmetaljack

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    Wrong to what ? Specifically.

    Why don't you believe in due process ?

    And what about the subpoenas ?
     
  16. Bluesguy

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    Do they or do they not?
     
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    Who is jailed? Is what you are claiming actually happening?
     
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    I asked first do all government officials in jai on sch charges or facing them get them dropped now?
     
  19. Bluesguy

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    The article is perfectly clear stop being obtuse. it is s perfectly clear as his and your hypocracy in the matter unless you agree with the Judge.
     
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    Peter Navarro was not a current government official when he subpoena was issued.

    Government officials have leeway to ignore subpoenas (see Jim Jordan).
     
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    What you say isn't happening so there is no answer to a problem that does not exist.
     
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    lol so I went and looked it up. No, he didn't. He ignored it and sent letters back and the committee recommended that he and the other subpoena ignorers be referred to the House Ethics committee. Then the Republicans took majority control and let their guy off the hook.

    what a joke.
     
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    Yes he was negotiating it they refused to answer his standing questions especially concerning this unprecedented step of subpoena to a fellow member and the Speech and Debate clause conflicts and then they dropped it. Guess they figured they had no case especially figuring the entire committee went against the rules of such committees and the Republicans would fight it on those grounds too.

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    They could have filed charges they did not...........they knew they would lose.
     
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    Call me when Hunter Biden is an elected official.
     
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    LOL

    The speech and debate clause that says "and for any Speech or Debate in either House, they [members of Congress] shall not be questioned in any other Place." (any other place then Congress)

    Also, that clause protects members from speech made during legislative process.

    J6 was not legislative process so why would his texts and communications with Meadows fall under that? It doesn't.

    Finally - Did Hunter get access to all the stuff against him for his subpoena?
     

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