Is Owning A Slave Really That Bad?

Does she agree, that is the question. Many would be happy with that opportunity as it provides a better future than living on the street.

 

The didn't follow orders? They didn't work hard enough? They tried to escape? The procreated without authorization? They objected to their spouse being sold? They just felt like it?

 

Owning a slave would be OK.

Being a slave would suck.

I'm not prepared to pass laws that treat people like I would not wanted to be treated based upon the proposition I might not be in the disfavored category.

 

Depends. If I got a roof over my head, food to eat and my medical bills were taken care of, what would I have to worry about? If I was looked after then I'd probably not have an objection.

I don't know, but I guess some do.

If they didn't want to work, then what would they be doing? Would you rather someone remain unemployed and leeching off the taxpayer than working for a living?

I don't know, I did assume. I know in some countries they are likely treated like garbage, but in other countries they may be paid quite well.

As long as I wouldn't be on my feet all day and had enough time to relax and spend some time alone, why wouldn't I agree to that? I mean, I'm living off YOU for FREE!! I eat YOUR food, sleep under YOUR roof, and its all FREE! Why would I complain?

 

I disagree. We have seen 60 years of time where Americans freely have given up their freedoms, often times demanding certain freedoms be taken. Or are you so blinded that you don't see where this has occurred?

 

What if the owner says "no, you did not do your work well enough, you don't get something to eat"? If you are free, you say "bye, sucker", if you are a slave, you are in real trouble.

 

It should be a requirement that the owner feed their slaves - but if the slave decides to slack off for the whole day without a reason, then they should perhaps be denied some luxuries - like a hot shower, for instance.

 

To slave one's sense of success or failure, rich or poor, to one's postition relative to others is self-imposed slavery.
Such relativists will never know contentment or charity, which are true freedoms.

The recipient culture is the self-imposed slave culture, in the US today.

 

Here's a question:

You are a single mom of 8 in a third world country and have no way of consistently providing for your family. A slave broker offers to buy one of your children and offers you enough money to feed the other 7 children for years to come. If you turn down the offer, all 8 of your children will likely die. What do you do?

Sometimes these situations aren't as black and white as we'd like to make them out. It's easy to pass judgement when you'll never have to face the tough decisions yourself.

 

This could be a great solution for the homeless or people who cant seem to find a job.

Then there would be no excuses for not working.

 

They would be given a job and looked after for the rest of their days. Although they shouldn't be responsible for the running of the entire house, you could have separate slaves for garden work, housework and nannies for the kids.

 

That is a good question. I wouldn't want any of my kids to starve and if the slave owner was going to treat my child well, perhaps, if I was THAT desperate, I could say goodbye to them although I would prefer not to.

 

Well I would see it as a temporary stepping stone. Either way it's a premise to work with. A good start none the less.

 

You beg the question, and begging doesn't become you.

If one wants to endenture themself, that's none of my business.
If one wants to endenture another, against their will, I am willing to defend them.

In 1988, I spent 45 days in county for assult. I beat a pimp that was slapping a whore around.
When she couldn't wake him, she turned on me;
but I'd do it again tomorrow.

 

Assume the child you sell might live a miserable, painful life. Is that worse than letting everyone die?

Not sure how this is "begging the question" - scenarios like this are not entirely uncommon in certain corners of the globe. And if the sale of a child against his will saves all 8 from starvation? I'm just saying it can be a pretty grey area morally.

 

I don't know. It would be a very difficult decision to make, and I couldn't possibly judge anyone who found themselves in that situation.

 

No, it's grey area ethically. Morally, it's quite clear.
Ethics are situational. Morals are absolute.

You proposed a hypothetical situation.

The situation you proposed begged the answer you wanted, that's exactly why you formed the hypothetical the way you did. That's called, begging the question.

 

its the way life is in america today!

ponder this.

slavery is perfectly legal in america and alive and well this very second.

what is NOT happening for all intents and purposes is "involuntary servitude", that is what is truly unlawfull, but slavery is totally legal!

How can you know for sure?

BEcause the government practices "bond" slavery every day of your life.

You were born with a debt over your head that is now 35,000 bucks.

If you have a kid tomorrow that kid is immediately a bond slave because he has a debt on his head of 35,000 dollars.

This is common and of course we all work for the mater to pay it off while the overlords get right with all that interest that they colect so they never have to work a day in their lives.

So you owning a slave? Sure slaves own slaves.

So does that mean you prance around in stillettos and seamed stockings?

 

Slaving one's sense of success or failure, rich or poor, to one's position relative to others is self-imposed slavery.

 

Very true. Nihilist thinking is exactly the wrong sort of attitude one who seeks success should have.

 

It is wrong unless it is only usufruct ownership and they are really just slaves of the government.
Or if there is no government.

 

Yes. It REALLY is that bad. End of story.

 

I honestly doubt there's people lined up to work for someone without pay in this economy. Although, if they did it voluntarily then it's not slavery, just regular work. Slavery is forcing one to work or do something against their will.

 

Slaving one's sense of succes or failure, rich or poor, to one's position relative to others is self-imposed slavery.

 

This is not slavery anymore, it's more like a prison then.