What are US Soldiers dying for??in Afghanistan??

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  1. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You make the assumption that even if the entire world was socialist, everybody would play by your rules and in the simple mind of most leftists, utopia would be created.

    The fact is, most people realize that in order to continue to have people contribute to the social group they are part of they must have a connection to that group or in the least feel that the group is somehow contributing back to them. Only in leftist fantasy land do people get up every morning and work hard and diligently so somebody across the world gets X.

    Then to assume that factions will go away. As if people are no longer driven by their own selfish desires. Socialist fail to realize that some people will always pull for more material goods and more power. This will always cause conflict, and without capitalism to regulate distribution of such goods... what a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing mess.

    But you go on and keep living in your fantasy land, thinking that if everybody simply listened to you and gave you control then you would fix the worlds ills. How extraordinarily arrogant and naive of you.
     
  2. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes yes. Rupert Murdock was a global criminal so much so that it requires that we unhinge the entire world social structure so that we can put people like Saddam in charge of various regions and take away the peoples ability to drive the own destiny.

    :omg:
     
  3. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hypothetically for sure.
     
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    At this point I'm not sure why we're still there, unless of course they still want to get Zawhari before leaving.

    The minute we killed UBL, we had the best opportunity we are going to get to say Mission Accomplished, and pull our guys out of there with a victory.
     
  5. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL @ the idea that the US is on the brink or economically collapsed.

    Simply because we have an internal debate going on about the direction our country is going doesn't make us "broke" or collapsed.

    Sorry to all of the America haters out there. Check our GDP and our foreign held debt as a percentage of GDP.

    We are still the wealthiest country on the planet.

    You are completely clueless.
     
  6. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let me guess. The way to do that is to give them money. Right?
     
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  7. Bryan

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    That is one of the most insanely stupid statements that ever came out of the bush administration. The other was when someone was afraid of gas attacks and people were told get use duct tape over doors and windows. Cheney and rumsfeld were traitors to the USA.
     
  8. Bryan

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    Your money is no good or soon it will be worthless, you have already lost you privacy, and so all u have left is a gun. And what is wrong with being an ISOLATIONIST? People throw words around and have no idea what they mean...
     
  9. Bryan

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    THERE IS NO VICTORY IN WAR, unless no one dies. The most powerful nation the world has ever known cant beat alqueada and the taliban in close to a decade of fighting. Yes it is probally over-simplified, but so too are the many statements here.
     
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    I will not be surprise to see the Obama administration turn the U.S. Military into a strictly Volunteer concept.

    Would the crap hit the fan.?...That would be Awesome.​
     
  11. Bryan

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    Even with your philosophy, why do we need such a vast defense program, unless countries around the world hate us? why do u think they hate us? One of the reasons is that we arrogantly go to other countries and treat the people with total disdain and want to use their resources without giving them proper compensation. We had no justifiable or constitutional reason to attack Iraq. You say they had WMD, well so did Pakistan and other countries in that region. We attacked Afganistan because of one man, not hardly! We just wanted to fight another unfunded war to increase the riches of the war machine in the USA. One quick item. The defense dept has already had their budget approved and it is separate from everything else. We spend money in and for other countries yet dont have enough $ for our own people. WHAT HYPOCRACY!!!
     
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    fOR MANY YRS BOTH THE BUSH AND OBAMA ADMINISTRATIONS HAVE TOUTED THAT WE HAVE A COMPLETELY VOLUNTEER MILITARY. People just like to see their thoughts in writing without thinking what they are saying 1st. There is nothing wrong with a voluteer military providing there are no wars.
     
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    they are dying for the bankers and friends.

    FOUR YEARS before the Iraq invasion,

    The Book the Grand Chess board was written here is a review of that book by Dr Monteith

    http://www.radioliberty.com/nlapr02.htm
     
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    Because they have media run by factional idiots who tell them what to think. Very obedient, the Americans. Stupid but obedient. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNGOli7_dYc"]‪Rense & Maxwell - Most Americans Brainless And Obedient‬‏ - YouTube[/ame]
     
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    For freedom, God, weapons of mass destruction, love, children, puppies etc.
     
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    A stupid Eurotrash remark. Congratulations.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Turn your tinfoil hat counter-clockwise to relieve the pressure on your brain...
     
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    I used to support the "nation-building" mission in Afghanistan, and I was willing to have our military stay in perpetuity until that mission was accomplished, but it's quite obvious that these politicians aren't serious about completing the mission, so we should reduce our presence there substantially. We need to maintain a base of operations in Afghanistan, though. We can never leave totally. Air-campaigns, special forces, and select infantry units. Oh, and we need to maintain a big cushion around our embassy. Total pullout is NOT an option. We must remain there to disrupt and destroy the enemy.
     
  19. philxx

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    Talking of which do we have the proof that Osama bin Laden was Killed ,ANYONE!

    NO WE DON'T not even the recorded CCTV footage???????????
     
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    How can an Enemy be the people that live there?????????for thousands of years before the USA was even thought of by Thomas Paine!???????
     
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    The Taliban were around thousands of years ago? Pray tell.

    PS. I hate to break the news to you, Comrade, but the Soviet Union no longer exists...
     
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    oNE COULD DRAW THE CONNECTION WITH THE tRIBAL BASED Taliban and the tribal existance in the region of AFGHANISTAN over the past couple thousand years of human habitation ,YES!

    Guess what the TALIBAN are a product of a Long history of Trivbalism in Afghan region,DER!

    New depths of silliness and anti-History1

    in fact all GOD NUTTER TRIBALLY BASED THINKING,Judeo-christian,hindu,Muslim,buddist ect .

    Thinking that arose in Tribal or slave societies ,derrrrrrr stupid backward pre -scietific human thinking dum as pig (*)(*)(*)(*) that used to cover a lot of the illiterate tribal and slave societies .

    Before electricity,even,or the Industrial revolution or the ELIGHTENMENT!

    come on dont make it to easy foir me tribal thinker!
    is just that TRIBALLY BASED before Cities,empires,let alone the Modern nation State capitialist System !

    Der,did you go to a thing called School or were you home taught and missed human history???????
     
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    yeah i see your point ,he could use the MURDOCH defence ,I DIDN'T Know ,what my minions were or are up to!

    I am just GOD determined leader!

    I am not responsible for anything but the $Billions in my bank account!

    Not the Billions that society gives me!:blahblah::nana::clap:the Murdoch\Bin Laden Billionaire method of thinking!
     
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    Not going into Afghanistan and removing the Taliban, forcing al Qaeda to run elsewhere and UBL to go into hiding would have cost us more, much much more.
     
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    Humans don't know anything until they try!

    do you have a crystal ball of what will be history or something?

    did God tell you something and you are sharing?

    and if a Trillion Dollars was used to modernise and educate the population of Afghanistan instead of killing them and smashing what little they had ,then YES A TRILLION DOLLARS WHOULD HAVE WIPED THE BACKWARD GOD THINKING OF THE TALIBAN with out sheading a drop of INNOCENT BLOOD!

    Don't you think?Sorry no you don't!
     

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