If Roe v. Wade were over turned tomorrow (as it should be) and legal abortion were left up to the states (as it should be) the number of abortions performed wouldn't change signifigantly. Currently most abortions occur in liberal states like Ca, NY etc. Those are the states that would keep abortion legal. The states that would outlaw it have very few abortions performed now so it wouldn't effect the overall number much.
Why overturn it? Are the rights of women a function of the state they live in? What is the point of overturning it?
Hmmmm, here is an interesting bit of info: http://www.publicchristian.com/?p=734 RED-STATE / BLUE-STATE ABORTION RATES COMPARED: All but one of the ten states with the LOWEST rates of abortion are considered “LIBERAL” : Liberal 1 Massachusetts 2.4 Liberal 2 Connecticut 2.8 Liberal 3 New Jersey 3.0 Liberal 4 Rhode Island 3.2 Liberal 5 New York 3.3 Liberal 6 Pennsylvania 3.3 Liberal 7 Wisconsin 3.4 Conservative 8 North Dakota 3.4 Liberal 9 Maryland 3.5 Liberal 10 Minnesota 3.6 All but one of the Sixteen states with the HIGHEST rates of abortion are considered “CONSERVATIVE” : Conservative 35 Texas 5.4 Conservative 36 Alaska 5.5 Liberal 37 Washington 5.6 Conservative 38 Mississippi 5.7 Conservative 39 Kentucky 5.8 Conservative 40 Arizona 5.8 Conservative 41 Florida 5.9 Conservative 42 New Mexico 6.0 Conservative 43 Idaho 6.2 Conservative 44 Alabama 6.2 Conservative 45 Indiana 6.6 Conservative 46 Wyoming 6.5 Conservative 47 Tennessee 6.6 Conservative 48 Oklahoma 6.7 Conservative 49 Arkansas 7.1 Conservative 50 Nevada 9.0
WOW, I mean WOW. You should read the definition of "correlation". The chart itself gives you what you ask for. There is a positive correlation between legalizing abortion and increasing abortion frequency. I know you don't believe in dictionaries, but this is a new low for you in the ignorance realm.
"considered" by who? BTW being considered "conservative" doesn't mean a lot of dumbass liberals and progressives don't live there.
How do you explain the trend toward fewer abortions in more recent years? Abortion is still legal, and according to your reasoning should be increasing.
The catalyst in the relatively minor reduction wasn't legality. but it is important to state that the frequency of abortions are still WAY above where they were when abortions were first legalized. I believe the catalyst is education. Women are wising up to the fact that they were lied to when they were told what they were doing was not a homicide. Some now know but still choose to commit the homicide anyway sadly, so abortion rates have not reached zero.
By reading articles on the internet. One enormously positive thing the internet has done is allow more opinions and analysis to be accessible by the public. It has stopped the controlling of information in place before when only abortion clinics were available as information sources. BTW, although you initially claimed abortion is not a homicide, you even seem now to admit that it is!
That is not a correlation just your inability to provide it. Don't need to, unlike you I actually understand what it is. No, that chart shows the number of abortions for the various years. Then you should not have any difficulty providing it. Thus far all you supplied was meaningless double talk and evasion, as usual.
Well I cannot fix intentional ignorance so I guess this is as far as I can go enlightening you here. Actually those years are the years since abortion became legal. Therefore, those years are correlated with a rise in abortion frequency positively. The chart provides it. Like I said, I cannot fix wanton ignorance.
No. Your opinion is baseless and your "support" is based on fallacy. You should've aborted this thread instead of posting it.
This is false as you know. I have posted irrefutable support for my assertion and abortion is clearly a homicide.
Actually you have not, but did say you did several times. Maybe in your world that counts as proof, but not in the real one.
Oh I have and you know I have, you are just choosing to remain ignorant of the truth. Knock yourself out, it is a free country.
Your own chart counters your own title. If "legalized abortion causes more abortions" is "obvious[ly] proven" then why is that, while abortion is still legal, that the rate of abortions have declined since 1981?
Apparently you cannot read a chart. When abortion was legalized in 1973, did abortion numbers increase or decrease? Are the current abortion rates higher or lower than 1973 when part of the year they were legal and part they were not?
You're trying to play some sort of half-assed semantics game while trying to back your initial fallacious assertion. Starting in 1981, the rates decline. If, as you say, "legalized abortion causes more abortions", then the rate should've continued to increase but it didn't. So now let's look at an expansion of the timeframe: So, the abortion rate started increasing in the 60s yet you claim that it was the legalization of abortion in 1973 that led to the increase. The chart shows that your argument is not just fallacious, presumptuous and, as of now, completely refuted.
The problem with whaler is that for whatever reason he is unable or unwilling to acknowledge when he is wrong or just mistaken, even when faced with the correct information. The funny thing is that in attempts to support some assertion he will post either data that is not relevant out of date or that outright contradicts his position, but when the obvious is revealed to him he still lacks the integrity to acknowledge it.
You obviously don't understand logic OR how to read a chart. AFter abortion was made legal the frequency SKYROCKETED. Your own chart proves this. It wasn't legalized in 1981. So something else must have happened in 1981 that tempered abortion frequency somewhat, but rates are still dramatically higher than they were in 1973, when abortion was legalized. No semantics here, just cold hard facts! BTW what is the source of abortion frequency before legalization? It had to be pure speculation since illegal abortion providers certainly did not keep records.
Once legalized records were kept. The chart shows the rest of the story. The chart itself shows they skyrocketed after legalization.