Terrorist attacks on the Israel - Egypt

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  1. Liebe

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    Well the above applies to any and all states. The laws only remain in place for as long as the majority so choses (except in dictatorships of course, in which case for a certain period the laws do not reflect the majority's position).

    So similarly European demographics are changing.

    Is that a good or a bad thing?

    It is irrelevant. It cannot be altered.
     
  2. wgabrie

    wgabrie Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't know all of the Constitutions or Common Laws of Europe, but I found out that France at least doesn't have the kind of religious protections that I would like to see. No wonder France is always antagonizing their immigrents with burka bans and such -- France is in danger of Sharia too.

    Ethnic change doesn't have to be a bad thing though. If your system of freedom and rights is strong it can survive whatever century or ethnic group calls it their own.

    At least in the USA we have the 1st Amendment which includes religious freedom against those in government using their positions of power to launch religious cleansings and genocides in the name of setting up their personal religion. Sharia law cannot find root in America. The founding fathers of the USA took lessons from the Protestant revolution, and the massacres that occured, and put in protections to help prevent religion from using the government's power against its own people.
     
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    Consitutions also offer little protection when the demographics change sufficiently. Laws are never written in stone and sooner or later a majority will find a why to change them, if they so desire - by force or otherwise. Has it ever been any other way?
    Ethnic change may mean laws change. It may mean that minorities retain rights or not; depends on the views of the ehtnicity in charge.
     
  4. ravivos21

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    so what are we supose to do?
    i'm not happy of what they are doing,
    according to what you said,the only solution is to kill them all,and we can do that, but we won't do this because we are Humanities.
    But every problem has a reasonable solution acceptable to everyone, we'd already agreed to it (return to the '67 borders), but the Palestinians too greedy and did not want to go back, they wanted the whole country ... now they understand it will take them a long time so they remember wanting to go back to 67 but it not work like that, after many attacks and rockets (just today killed and wounded civilians) we fire back, I'll quote the Netanyahu
    And for heaven's sake began finally to the point that it should have been so sorry for the wounded in Gaza that al-Jazeera executives said they were all terrorist organizations
     
  5. creation

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    Dear Ravivos

    What exactly is it you want from the palestinian supporters here?

    Would you like us to forget what Israel is up to right now? Or to to just think about these latest attacks from the other side ??

    Would you like us to accept the ethnic cleansing and calls for mass murder made by the right wingers on this forum?

    Are you really accusing palestinians of being 'greedy'?

    By the way how old are you? Ill guess youre 22.
     
  6. ravivos21

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    i expect you don't support hamas
    we will never murder incient people
    you should not support terrorism.
    All our actions derive from their political rights and most of our own (from what I know) were political & human rights (example: nakba day-we had the right to kill all the Demonstrators but we did not kill them)
    By the way I am 15 years old
     
  7. creation

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    Dear Ravi

    Youre a sweet kid. But no one has a 'right' to kill demonstrators.

    I suggest you spend your time reading up on history, using narratives from all sides.

    Failing that, just ask me anything about this conflict that you would like to know. We are at your disposal.
     
  8. ravivos21

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    Clearly, we had the right to kill them! They invaded our borders, we had the full right to do so! Still, we did not! Since we Humanities (unlike many who say otherwise!)
    I maybe only 15 but I know quite a bit, for example if Someone breaks into your home in the United States you have every right to kill him ... they crossed the border should not be crossed... It is our right!
     
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    RevAnarchist New Member Past Donor

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    Look and this is important Ravivos, forget those that are angry at you! They are wretched parasites and that is their good points! Israel is and will be under attack by squatters* and criminals. Your country will forever be attacked without letup. Why? I do not know if you are secular or non secular Christian or “spiritual Jewish” but the real war is a satanic battle being waged with the physical ie ‘real world’ battles for the heart minds and land of Gods land called Israel. I so hope that your country does not break its covenant with God and relinquish its one inch of Gods land to the so called Palestinians. You and your country has hundreds of millions of friends in the USA, and even in the administration of the USA’s government, despite that big eared, grossly clueless, rank stupid, Israel disliking dumbo in office now, ie the nit wits name is Obama.

    Hang in there and be proud of your country. If I were a few years younger I would volunteer for your countries army and move to Israel if they would have me! God bless you and my beloved Israel (you can share her a bit eh?)~

    * Google paragraph retained for reader information>>>>>> Palestinian people do not exist
    Jul 11, 2002 ... The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a ... in the history of
    the world, Palestine has never existed as a nation. ...

    www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=28222 -



    Rev.A.
     
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    You have no problem with the Palestinian resistance killing illegal Zionist squatters inside their country then ? Me neither.
     
  11. ravivos21

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    I'm against the death of innocent people! I'm just saying we could kill them, instead we were humane and still charged us! Until now the Israeli air force killed only terrorists
     
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    I see you have infected this thread with your sarcastic taunting words eh? I suggest that young ravivos21 iggy your hateful words. You misrepresented what Ravo said! He/she said they felt that if someone invades your home they could be righteously shot, I fully agree! Or you could be like the latest victim in the local news last nite where while on the phone with the cops where he hid in the bathroom he was shot through the door, by armed home invaders that just wanted his playstation. He survived long enough to see his 14 year old brother shot dead in the head by the intruders with a 12 ga shotgun. Yeah I would shoot intruders on the spot.

    That said we should have empathy for homeless people. Nevertheless; ONE MORE TIME; IF THE ULTRA RICH ARABS WOULD GIVE THE SO CALLED PALESTINIAN PEOPLE A SPIT OF LAND THE PROBLEM WOULD BE SOLVED!!! WHY THE RICH ARABS? A FEW REASONS ; THEY HAVE 400 TIMES THE LAND MASS OF ISRAEL, AND THE SAME CULTURE ETC AS THE PALSQUATTERS. Is that so difficult to understand?

    RevA
     
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    Another reason to halt Islamic immigration to the West.

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  14. creation

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    They invaded your borders.

    Why would they do that? Ever think of that ravi?

    By the way, who built the villag or town your currently living in?

    Also, if the IDF can kill those who cross its borders, though they dont. Does that mean the Palestinians can kill settlers in the west bank? Or is that different?

    Let me know what you think.
     
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    Didn't the retaliatory air strike kill a 3 year old child? Didn't he count as an innocent person?
     
  16. ravivos21

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    you want to compare 3 years old child to 8 people and almost 2 parents & 2 childs? Give me a break
     
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    Yet Israel never attacks anyone they defend themselves when terrorists attack them
     
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    Rockets and suicide bombers are not demonstaters
     
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    They do not have a country
     
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    Terrorist hide behind innocents to claim that. It is the terrorists fault the baby died
     
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    This is just not true. Israeli pilots refused to continue flying assassination missions because of the indesriminant killing of civilians. Google it.

    Dropping 1000 lb bombs in the middle of crowded neighborhoods "because there might be a bad guy somewhere in the area .. is no excuse for mass killing of civilians.

    If you look at the stats .. the number of Palestinian children killed in this conflict is 10 times higher than the number of Israeli children.

    The Israeli airforce has killed thousands of non-terrorists.

    I do not take sides in this issue. I am just against "intentional" killing of innocents on both sides.
     
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    More Arabs have been killed by Syrians in last 6 months than the IDF has killed in Many years ...
     
  23. moon

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    Tell us how many the IOF have killed in many years. Here's a starter; they killed 400 Palestinian children over christmas, 2008/9 , along with a thousand other people in just one operation. According to Israeli policy that means that 4,000 Israeli children and ten thousand other Israelis must die.
     
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    Do your own homework ,it may surprise you, IOF is that the Elks Lodge ??
     
  25. moon

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    It appears that you don't have a clue. You've made a statement, back it up or withdraw it.

    I call bullcrap.
     

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