Carney: Obama's New Jobs Plan Would Put Unemployment Below 9%

Where have we heard this garbage before?2009?2010?After the promise that the failed porkulus would drop the unemployment rate below 8%.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/01/carney_obamas_new_jobs_plan_would_put_unemployment_below_9.html

Carney: Obama's New Jobs Plan Would Put Unemployment Below 9%
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QUESTION: If Congress were to pass the package that the President's going to announce, unemployment would be under 9%?

JAY CARNEY: Based on, when you're talking about economic predictions, yes. Economic analysts, economists will be able to look at this series of proposals and say that 'based on history, based on what we know, based on their collective expertise, that it would add to economic growth and cause an increase to job creation.[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr_hmwJjVLk"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kr_hmwJjVLk[/ame]Remember this??
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I remember this
"In 2009, the White House said President Obama's stimulus plan would bring unemployment to below 8%."

 

The eight ton elephant in the room is an ObamaCo inspired anti-business climate...

namely, the red tape, expense and uncertainty surrounding Obamacare, and the massive, unavoidable tax burden that will be ultimately borne by the business community....

and there is no speech, stimulus, promises, pleading or begging that will loosen the purse strings...

as long as this boob and his cabal are in positions of political import.

 

You likely heard it, like millions of others, from the often repeated lies of the conservative propaganda media you all listen to.

Because you never heard anyone in the Obama administration promise that the Stimulus would drop the unemployment rate below 8%.

 

Of course, you don't remember it from 2009. Because no one in the Obama administration actually said that before the Stimulus bill was passed.

You remember it from *after* the conservative propaganda media created the myth that the Obama administration promised unemployment wouldn't go over 8% when promoting the stimulus package.

That's the way propaganda works. It creates false memories.

 

Yes I do and 2008 and later when Roemer stated she regretted saying it.

So why believe them now?

 

Are you saying Obama's economic advisers aren't part of the Administration? He was paying them wasn't he?

 

I would say the Chair of the Council of Economic Advisers in the Obama administration and the Economic Policy Adviser to Vice President Joseph Biden in the Obama Administration would DEFINITELY qualify as part of the Obama administration.

And this is some of what they said in the report:

'As Figure 1 shows, even with the large prototypical package, the
unemployment rate in 2010Q4 is predicted to be approximately 7.0%, which is well below the
approximately 8.8% that would result in the absence of a plan.'

http://www.economy.com/mark-zandi/d...e_American_Recovery_and_Reinvestment_Plan.pdf


For the record, the unemployment rate for '2010Q4' averaged 9.6+%.

http://www.miseryindex.us/urbymonth.asp

 

From a Krugman column.

This is the BS sales job all wrapped up in a report from 1/09. There's no denying the message, the messenger and the intended fairy tale.

The entire leftwad agitprop industrial complex wants it to go away. Badly. Really, really, badly. It's the noose in the tree, the guillotine on the East lawn.

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Yes we all remember it,

now why should we believe them now?

 

So you cite to the source of conservative propaganda to prove it's not conservative propaganda?

Sure, I agree you can find scores or hundreds or thousands of articles or statements by Fox and Rush and Sean about Obama's promise.

That's the propaganda. That's the fabrication. That Fox saying what someone said. And their not even saying "promise" in that article.

You think I'm wrong?

Feel free to find an article or source quoting Obama or anyone in his administration actually saying "without the federal spending jolt, the unemployment rate would hit 8.8 percent by the last fiscal quarter of 2010. With the package ... the unemployment rate would reach only 7 percent" before the stimulus was passed as Fox claims.

 

I don't remember it. I remember the conservative propaganda media spinning it. They still do. I was listening to Hannity the other night and he was ranting about how Obama promised the 8%.

And the fact that you cannot find any articles from 2008 saying it proves your memory is wrong. A creation of conservative propaganda like millions of others.

Except you know better.

 

....is today about the same as Spinal Tap drummer.

 

Because while their forecast on the economy was off, their prediction on the effect of the stimulus was pretty accurate, as is confirmed by multiple, independent analyzes, including the CBO.

 

We didn't hmm thats odd.

Whats this then?

http://youtu.be/5jeaECaXAQs

http://youtu.be/-TGlFvgel9k



Just a figment of some liberals imagination.

If so then please wake the liberal up, our Republic can ill afford such liberal imaginings.

Yet again the libs try to lie Obama's way out of the hole he himself dug. Now claiming no one in Obama's admin ever made such a promise. Oh thats right, those this President bypasses the Senate and the Constitution to appoint, those who advise this President on our national economic conditions, those who write and release "reports" on behalf of, and for this President.

Those whom this President cites as basis for his political arguments.

Well they're not really part of Obama's Presidency or administration. Yeah right, and I have a bridge in N.Y. to sell too.

 

January 2009, see the words and figure 1 on page 5. http://otrans.3cdn.net/45593e8ecbd339d074_l3m6bt1te.pdf

Yep, it was said that his stimulus package would keep unemployment below 8%.
Now tell us, who is the victim of propaganda?

 

Post #18, Referee stops the fight.

I've never seen such a mismatch.

 

An explanation of the projection in 2008 when few expected the Great Recession to be so severe.

A question by a reporter to Romer at some point in mid 2009, apparently, with her response. Did you even watch your own videos?

Why would you say that?

The only thing that has been imagined was the belief that Obama or anyone in his administration promised anything about 8%.

Please identify the lie you are asserting I've made.

Or is this yet another bull(*)(*)(*)(*) baseless accusation from you?

 

Feel free to post that actual quote of Obama promising unemployment would not exceed 8% if his stimulus was passed.

Then I'll concede.

That's the easy way to stop the fight. Because of course he actually made that promise right? It couldn't be a fabrication of the right wing media, could it?

 

Which is again,yet another liberal lie, which is directly contradicted, by none other than the President's own appointed economic advisors.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=c3e_1283401288

Who admitted the first stimulus didn't work, because they didn't understand the recession adequately enough.

 

Klugman isn't Obama, or in his administration.

 

From the plan released Jan 9, 2009

"First, the likely scale of employment loss is extremely large. The U.S. economy has already lost
nearly 2.6 million jobs since the business cycle peak in December 2007. In the absence of stimulus,
the economy could lose another 3 to 4 million more. Thus, we are working to counter a potential
total job loss of at least 5 million. As Figure 1 shows, even with the large prototypical package, the
unemployment rate in 2010Q4 is predicted to be approximately 7.0%, which is well below the
approximately 8.8% that would result in the absence of a plan.1"
http://otrans.3cdn.net/ee40602f9a7d8172b8_ozm6bt5oi.pdf

 

Krugman isn't Obama economic advisor Chsristina Rhomer either.

Oh we don't want to talk about her do we libs.

Don't bother responding to that libs, the question was rhetorical.

Your lies on the issue have been exposed.

 

Yes, the economic forecast, upon which their prediction was based, underestimated the severity of the Great Recession back in 2008 when the report was created.