The "tea party" ideology

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  1. Montoya

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    Yes we all know the the tea party is the "taxed enough already" party (which in itself is utterly stupid). But, beneath the thin veil of taxes the tea party is mostly ultra religious and ultra nationalistic people. For example, the ground zero mosque was heavily criticized by those on the right who were coincidentally members of the tea party and yes some non TP as well, but still republicans. Now, to me that is the ultimate infringement on our first amendment rights. Clearly the tea party wanted the government to abridge the free speech of religion. Now, you also have tea party members advocating more "christian principles" in our government. Here we have them advocating the government "respecting an establishment of religion". WHat it boils down to is the tea party is alot of right wing christian extremists along with ultra right wing nationalists. Wasn't this the basis of the Nazi party?

    Discuss please.
     
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    Discuss what? Your confirmation bias? Sick delusions? Paranoid rants against the GOP that have the tinge of barely controlled Schizophrenia? Your wild conspiracy theories that make debating you so frustrating because you ignore any and all proof that destroys your arugments which you almost always lose consistently? Your constant resorting to ad hominems, logical fallacies of the worst sort, and straw men that show a stunning lack of connection to reality?

    I'm sorry that you hate half of your fellow Americans so much, it must truly suck to live in a center-right nation for you.
     
  3. kilgram

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    The message of the tea party is not a message of someone of center-right. Is a message of someone from the far right. Is a message that normally is ultra nationalistic and very religious. The most prominent members of this are very religious, for example Bachman.
     
  4. Libhater

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    Yeah, it must be a sad day for your ilk to look at this Tea Party movement that holds up all of the traditional values of America's founders. Wasn't it our enemy who had such disdain for our original Tea Partiers? I guess that would make you and your ilk America's enemy for having such disdain for our current batch of Tea Party Nationalists.
     
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    LOL. Well, this movement for me is a wrong movement because at first point pretends to recover the ideals of people that died at least 200 years ago. The times, culture and all has changed a lot from that period.

    You're like the Islamic radicals that pretend to go back to the basis of what said in the Qu'ran. This conservative movement is the same. Other ideology but same basis. Recover outdated values that every day less people support, mainly the young people.

    Let's see that for example the Tea Party movement is formed only for people of "medium class" and older than 40 years. The Tea Party is a movement of old people and old values that are outdated in this epoque.

    A movement that tries to reinstaurate their old and outdated values.
     
  6. Libhater

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    Geez, and I had always thought that the majority of Americans be they young or old...socialist or traditionalist were against tax increases and a more monopolized/centralized big government role. Where have I been misled, oh genie you?
     
  7. Buzz62

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    WHOLLY POT FRIGGIN' KETTLE!!!:omg:

    Good thing YOU never engage is such posts...isn't it.:fart:
     
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    Ron Paul supports the ground zero mosque fyi.

    You're just talking out of your you know where.
     
  9. kilgram

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    because tea party is not only about taxes. It is about more. In Tea Party at least the visible faces are ultranationalist and ultrarreligious people.

    The taxes is not a problem(refering to the tea party). The taxes are only a minor issue. That there yes many people can agree. And ask less taxes in principle is good. It is normal. There is not an opposition. The opposition is to that traditionalist ideas that are bad for almost everybody.
     
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    Ron Paul is out of tea party. Although he is one of the motivators he is not participating anymore in that. Because now that is an aberration.
     
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    I once saw a democratic party member, wear a tin foil hat. Therefor, all democrats are retarded.
     
  12. Buzz62

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    IMO...ever so humble as it may be:-D...the Tea Party is a natural reaction to the onslaught of FEAR that has gripped the USA since 9/11.

    KABOOM!!!

    The fear and anger was at a feverish pitch back then. The need for revenge was so great, that few even stopped to think..."Hey, Did Afghanistan or Iraq attack us?"

    So under the guise of "TERRORISM", the Bush admin proceeded to utterly destroy 2 sovereign nations, and turned the entire globe on its ear.

    As the decade of Bush continued, the admin of the time regularly reminded people to be afraid with "Terror Alerts". Also during this time began one of the most heated debates man may ever know..."What Really Happened On 9/11?" To this day, the "Truther" movement is a source of unimaginable annoyance to many Americans. So for 8 years, the Bush admin...with relative ease...maintained an unhealthy level of FEAR and ANGER which resulted in an almost fanatical sense of NATIONALISM in many people.

    But the pitched level of FEAR could not be sustained indefinitely, as more and more people began questioning the direction the Bush admin was taking. After a while, it became evident to even the most loyal Republicans, that Bush was simply F'ing up. The party faithful had to endure endless Democratic tirades about the stupidity of Bush and his actions, and many began to agree on this point. Another source of annoyance for the far right.

    Finally, the actions of the Bush years culminated in a devastating crash of the US economy. It was so bad that the entire world felt it. Allot of really big financial firms...along with the "Big 3"...were in desperate straights. And the Bush admin did the one thing that...although arguable the only real rational action of the 2 term failure...was the straw that broke the camel's back for many far right leaning citizens...it bailed the billionaires out. THAT is when the Tea Party began to form and howl.

    It is interesting that they chose the name they did, as taxes had been lowered by the admin. But I suppose it sounded "Patriotic" and thus...Tea Party it was. It was an attractive "outlet" for allot of steam that had been collecting in allot of people. Then Blackie McBlackman overwhelmingly won the presidency...and whether any of them are willing to admit it or not...this final happening was like rubbing salt in an open wound to these people.

    Unfortunately...the rest of us didn't realize till it was too late, that this movement had grown powerful and was essentially nutty and destructive.

    Now the question is, "How do we bring these people back down to earth?"
     
  13. Amigo

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    I'm a proud member of the tea party! It is not a political party, not like the D's & R's. Just to make it clear.
     
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    Project much? You defend the exploitive vote harvesting of blacks, for decades upon decades...and try to point at others who aren't racist, as racists. Pathetic.
     
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    Do you ever get tired of embarrassing yourself?

    Discuss please.
     
  16. Buzz62

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    Oh?

    And I suppose you have a more reasonable explanation?

    BTW..."vote harvesting of blacks"???

    Who's being pathetic...
     
  17. Buzz62

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    Oh that's useful...

    Hey its Friday...go celebrate...go kick an old lady...you'll feel better...
     
  18. Bluespade

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    Even better, I'll celebrate Friday by starting a thread full of accusations, with no proof what so ever to back my claims up, and then I'll get a couple clueless foreigners too agree with all my skewed baseless claims.

    Sound fun?
     
  19. Buzz62

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    I think its a marvie idea.

    I notice you don't even attempt at making a rational rebuttal.

    Why don't you try that?
     
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    There's nothing rational about this whole thread. So why should I actually take the effort of to counter utter gibberish?

    How about this guy, provide one shred of evidence that backs up any of the accusations the koolaid drinking OP has provided.

    Come on kid, take the pepsi challenge.
     
  21. kilgram

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    Ok let's say Perry, Bachman, are two of the favourites of the Tea Party.
     
  22. Bluespade

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    Says who, you?
    Evidence please.
     
  23. Buzz62

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    any more requests...
     
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    So, four sign containing mixed messages is your proof.

    Thanks for waisting my time.
     

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