What's so bad about RACISM?

First, we need to describe racism. Racism is simply one person of a particular race feeling a superiority over that of another race.

Racists may indeed use statistics of a particular race of people to show or compare their crime rates, their unemployed rates, their incarcerated rates, their fatherless rates, their school drop out rates, their murder rates and or their I.Q. rates to that of other races. Don't many of the members here use statistics or graphs to use as debate tools during their discourse of many of the other political issues? So what's the big deal with using race stats and or race as a topic for debate? Are you people that thin skinned that you have no tolerance in seeing an occasional racial slur slip on by the boards? I'm talking about this in reference to the posting of some Stormfront members here where some viewed them as not being worthy of discourse because they were somehow considered to be racists and or supremacists.

Stormfront members are viewed as being radical by some members and some moderators as well. Well, I view liberals as being more radical than the Stormfront members, so does that mean that I should be possibly banned, ignored or warned of posting here simply because I have a different view than say the majority of the members have?

There is a race relations section here. What in the world are people going to discourse in that section if not race and or racism? C-mon people...grow the (*)(*)(*)(*) up!

 

What is so bad about it? It shows one has the morals of a coward.

When you assume someone is bad because of their skin's melanin content, it show that you have no ability to rationalize thoughts, to actually find out about a person before you praise or condemn them.

It shows that their is nothing more than petty hatred and jealousy in your heart, that you would prefer to lash out at folks rather than think things through.

 

I know that having pride in one's own group at the expense of others is a very normal human reaction - history is full of such examples. I would have no problem with racism if it was a positive force - if Stormfront members were working hard at setting up scholarships for poor white kids or for professorships for teaching the role of whites in world and national history and sciences or even for providing media role models for white youths.

But this is not what racism is. Racists almost always are concerned showing how much lower the other races are, and in denigrating them and/or attacking them. Getting a feeling of superiority by trying to reduce others to a sub-human status is a bad thing - such rhetoric damages all it touches, including the racist. The clowns at Stormfront are not the pride of the white race - they are the pond scum trying to make themselves feel better.

 

Where did I assume that someone is bad? One can be the expert on calling someone bad by looking at the statistics. And what does does their skin color have to do with anything? I'm talking about race as a subject to debate, not whether one is purple or green with envy.

Hatred for another person has never been part of my makeup, and jealousy is something more likely reserved for the OWS types who have failed miserably in life.

 

I think racism involves race. I would guess that is what skin color has to do with anything

You should have put it in the forum feedback section then.

I strongly disagree. Hatred seems to be the core of your being. You have expressed some pretty vile thoughts regarding other races. I am fairly sure that it was not meant as an endearment of sorts.

 

The meaning of the word has changed a lot, much like gay. Gay used to simply mean happy and joyful- but now its taken as homosexual.

Someone's Race used to mean nationality, but i partly agree. Having prejudice against someone just because they had been of a certain ethnicity is not a good quality, but society has taken it waaay too far. I was called many names in my life and not many times had i been offended. I think people today are just way too sensitive.

 

Just proves we still can't have an adult discussion of race in this country.

 

It can, but can also be much more than that. The full meaning of racism is,

rac·ism
   [rey-siz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
1.
a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
2.
a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination.
3.
hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.


So I guess it really has to do how your using it. Whites could be smarter than Blacks. But Blacks can be stronger and more athletic than Whites. Does that make either one more superior than the other?

Ones values usually comes to play from the home and neighborhood. Before you judge a person's value, you must take into consideration his home and neighborhood life. Not all blacks are criminals, drug users, missing fathers. When given the chance, they can become President, Secretary of State, or US Supreme Court judge.

Being rich doesn't necessary make a person better than one who isn't rich. Did the rich man get it climbing over everyone else? Cheating and stepping on people? How does that make him better than anyone else?

Point is, we are all individuals. We have good and bad in every race and we shouldn't judge the actions of some, on everyone else.

That being said, we should be able to point out a trend we see in some races, or people in general, but you had better be careful how you word it. And if you do, I think it should be pointed out why that trend must have come about. We can't fix problems unless we understand what caused it.

 

Are you saying racists or Stormfront members have pride in their race at the expense of others? If so, please give examples.

Do you have any knowledge that Stormfront members aren't doing that? And you do know that racism comes in all colors, which does include blacks. Are blacks setting up scholarships for their kids, and do they teach the proper role of blacks in our secular/multi cultural society? And what would be that role for blacks in our society according to your expertise in the field of race relations?

If the black community were to take WHITE Nationalists for what they claim to be, and that is proud members of the WHITE race, without calling them racists, without denigrading them, without calling them pond scum or without attacking them so much as is the want of the liberal media, and in this case--YOU--then perhaps the term 'racism' would never ever be broached again.

Again, racism is defined as one race feeling or having a superiority over another race. I admit that many of the black athletes are superior to me as a WHITE man. Afterall, they put a movie out titled "WHITE men can't jump" in reference to the sport of basketball. I'm fine with that analysis in giving the black man his due in being superior to the WHITE man in athletics. I don't think there are many WHITES that feel offended with that particualr analysis of the truth, and certainly don't consider them to be racists. But once people use statistics of crime, murder or I.Q. as an example of the superiority of one race over another....they go all bonkers and have a hissy fit by calling the message purveyors racists. Go figure!

 

Sounds almost reasonable, except you also said this.

So you think blacks have a lower IQ, an unproven point, but you don't want them to call you racist? Or say denigrating things about racists? Or call you racist when you so clearly are?

Your level of hypocrisy matches the level of ugliness in your hatred.

 

You gotta be the only member of this forum that has no clue to the fact that Orientals have the highest I.Q on the average with WHITES coming in second with blacks bringing up the rear. Do a simple search engine check to get one of numerous graphs or stats confirming that point.

 

Yeah, I have heard that.

Unfortunately, that was the debunked crap from that Canadian racist professor.


And it is "Asians". "Orientals" went out like 30 years ago.

 

The OP's definition of racism is wrong. What he's describing is ethnocentrism.

 

Stormfront is home to the scourge of neo-nazism and hatred. It brings out the worst in human behaviour and makes me ashamed of being white.

 

What's good about it? It's a viewpoint for retards. Racism was invented by English capitalists a couple of hundred years ago to justify the Atlantic slave trade, and the scramble for Africa, that's all. Get a 'king life.

 

Not to be annoying, but people on this forum have to stop saying "retard."

 

It's divisive, unproductive, and often based on fantasy.

 

As it happens I was in the house of two blokes with learning difficulties a couple of weeks ago (they had support workers there every day), and there is no way I would ever call someone like that a retard. I reserve the word for really stupid right wing posting!

 

Divide and rule, hey, thats a great idea!

 

LOL... the word "hate" is literally in your forum monkier.

Priceless.

 

seeing as how english capitalists did not begin the slave trade how can that be?

Do you have a source?

 

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can you explain the achievement gap?

or are you going to turn tail and run again?

 

Judging an individual based on their ancestral geography or believing that one race is objectively superior to another is stupid and hateful.

 

yet you constatntly use terms such as redneck, hillbilly etc.