Ghosts are Proof of God

Actually no, 70 year old copies of original photos, WITHOUT THE ORIGINAL NEGATIVES, are NOT valid in court as evidence. If you bothered to read any of the info on the brown lady photo you would notice that many of the people investigating it offered up several possibilities for its existence that did NOT include real ghosts. But, of course they all agree, that the validity of the photo could not be determined without ORIGINAL PLATES. sorry, but the brown lady is just one more bit of anecdotal nonsense on the topic of ghosts.

 

Wow you mean thousands of people have seen the "BROWN LADY"?

 

Huh. So images that reprinted, copied, and reproduced hundreds or thousands of times are considered evidence?

Have you ever considered raising your standard of evidence?

 

Photos are not evidence, per se. Among other verification criteria, what they depict has to be recognizable and relate to probabilistic events, people or objects.

One cannot pull out a photo with an orb on it and present it to the court with, "The ghostly energy you see floating around here in this photo killed the victim".

Well ok, one can but one has been ill adviced if one does.

 

I said nothing about this case specifically. I said that photographic evidence is used in court, since some want to dispute the value of seeing plainly what is claimed.

Uhhh, yeah. I read it, since I'm the guy that made it part of this thread.
"Experts called in by Country Life stated that the photograph and its negative did not appear to have been interfered with." Did you catch the part about the negative?

Yes. Just like in this thread, all sorts of sideline experts who cannot explain a photo like this can propose all sorts of theories and come up with guesswork (which amount to pure conjecture) but no one can explain why two successful and prestigious professional photographers would put their careers on the line by creating this hoax.

Original plates? Do you mean the negatives? The validity of the photo was judged to be sound. You need to catch up, son.

 

What sort of neurological phenomenon would cause countless witnesses to all report the same sighting, over and over again? And what sort of neurological phenomenon can be captured on film?

 

They must define life as in the creation, that the creator outside is speaking of. Also outside of area & time, as we know it. They look for probably answer that support your opinion, there you in such a way informed I think. The creator fills all universe, which manufactured He/She, as we know it. So we can define it only of, what we dont if it compares our existence whatever we think that our reality is here and now. So in the original formulation of the Torah, "The Name" if the light of all lights and we along received only a very small version of its size, then it is not a spirit or a Figment of our fantasy.

So for the original formula of life, God, as no spirit or even creation as part of the creation which is one of the impossible situations and how he cannot do. People weren't beyond their abilities specifies to understand to others, like micro evolution, this its this is to what the 4th world of earth obvious (with us as in the last attitude since Adam & Eve, which were given to free will and whatever existed, before our history of mankind we little knowledge excluded all human like people have the free will or the mentality as we do.

 

The same type that makes people see flying saucers and elvis......People see what they want to see...The human mind is the most powerful thing on earth. It can cause many different things.

 

This presumes that everyone that has a paranormal encounter is actively hoping to have one. I don't think there is any way to substantiate that and many people don't even believe in ghosts before the are exposed to one.

 

One obvious thing not being mentioned is that "verified" photos just means they don't think the camera was manipulated to make the photo, or the photo after, also the hardscape, time, etc.

It does not mean that what you took the photo of, wasn't manipulated, or just swamp gas.

 

Actively? No. Passively? Probably.

If you cannot substantiate the former, then you can't substantiate the latter either.

 

Really? So in a fairly rare experience to begin with (paranormal encounters) only people that already believe in ghosts are able to play that game?
You really can't substantiate that.

 

Where is the nearest swamp to Norfolk, England?

 

England is know for it's rain, and strange ground fog, and swampy areas are everywhere.

However, the point was that they can be faked.

And if you Google Norfolk, England swamps, you will find they have many.

 

In the first place, photos, video and sound recordings are not valid evidence in any court except for certain specific things. A photo in a newspaper showing someone was some place on a specific date. Photos, videos and sound are easily falsified. When and IF photos are allowed, their MUST be some validating evidence that they are NOT facked. In most cases this means at least one thing, that the ORIGINAL negatives MUST be available for scientific inspection. I have seen many many photos disallowed as evidence because the negatives were not available.

By the way - rich, famous and distinguished people commit crimes, and fraud daily.
To say, it must be true because certain people had a good reputation is NOT valid for anything but stupid conjecture. Doctors murder, rape and steal. Politicians lie, cheat, rape and steal. Leaders of Nations murder, rape, and steal. REPUTATION is meaningless as validity for ANYTHING.

The conjecture in the brown lady case is that the pictures are valid. There is NOTHING to support the fact of any ghost anywhere. PHOTOS can be faked are are faked, sometimes just for the fun of doing it. To date, there is NO valid, factual information that shows the existence of ghosts, gods, demons or trolls.

Get over it, your original hypothesis was flawed by two invalid postulations, so the entire SUPPOSITION, is invalid.

 

I have no idea what this is about, did you accidentally post it on the wrong thread?

 

Yes and many do not believe we landed a man on the moon. All this shows is there are lots of idiots that will believe in any nonsense at all and deny any fact which invalidates their nonsensical belief.

 

Many? Where are they all? I found one reference to one swamp, Alder Swamp in Dilham, Norfolk, which isn't even close to Raynham Hall.

At any rate no rational person believes that "swamp gas" could make the journey to Raynham Hall (http://home.worldonline.co.za/~townshend/raynhampics.htm), enter the great hall (unnoticed), then configure itself on the staircase as the form of Lady Dorothy Walpole before it disperses again presumably to travel back to it's swamp miles and miles away.

Why not just say you don't believe the photo rather than come up with such an absurd scenario?

 

I know that paranormal activity is nonsense, and in 65 years I have never had a paranormal experience and never will. That proves paranormal activities are nonsense. heheheh.

 

Seems to be several swamps in Norfolk England, at least wet marshy areas, go look.

 

Not of course that nearby swamps are necessary to account for a smudge on a photograph.

 

Ghosts :O?
Oh no!

 

God is the fantasy of idiots.

 

It would seem you have determined that a "smudge" is responsible for the image of Lady Dorothy Walpole as taken by two highly competent professional photographers for Country Life magazine. What in your exhaustive investigation led you to this conclusion?

 

somethin strange, in your naiborhood...
who ya gunna call?

what u percieve as a "ghost" could be an electric based life form or "entity" messin with your thoughts.

Yep, it would.

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The infinity of the universe if proof of a god, not finding and interviewing "Casper"