Police Pepper Spray Peaceful UC Davis Students.

Those kids parents pay most of the taxes in this country.
Those kids whose parents don't are paying their own.

http://facts.ucdavis.edu/current_fees_tuition.lasso

http://www.collegeboard.com/student/pay/add-it-up/4494.html


And on a personal note... it takes a particular kind of evil to make fun of Kent State, and wish to invoke it again.

 

If you watch the video, it wasn't effective at all. The students backed the cops out of the quad... and only emboldened their resolve.


And that is really my issue here. The more of THIS kind of (*)(*)(*)(*) that happens, the longer it will take to make it go away, and the closer we edge to flat out rioting.

I appreciate your honesty.

 

Not at all, (*)(*)(*)(*) with the big dog and you're surely going to get bit. Kent State punks were destroying property, sad for the innocent, great for the instigators, Instigate Nevermore!. OBTW, I'm one of those taxpayers.

 

WOW are you deluded.

 

Have Americans considered the worldwide reaction to this police action?

Your repeated claims that you have the best systems, such as police and justice, won't cut much ice from now. A few years ago this type of police assault would be countered with a dozen reasons why it was necessary to break up a violent demonstration and people would believe it.

Whether Americans support the demonstrations or are opposed to them is no reason why some police should act in the same way that some demonstrators do.

If he did it of his own volition, he should be fired. If he did it on the orders of his superior, his superior should be fired. And if it came down from the office of the Mayor, Americans should be ashamed of themselves.

No matter how much this demonstration is despised, what has been seen today will only have the support of the lunatic fringe that believes free speech is only for them and not others.

 

Do you realize that innocent people who were just walking by were shot? Or are you just generally indifferent to unarmed people being shot? When do such "big dogs" EVER have the right to recklessly fire rounds at a crowd of civilians? And big deal that you pay taxes like everyone else, that doesn't give you or anyone else the moral right to indiscriminately kill people

 

I agree that the Kent State analogy is pure stupidity.

However "those kids parents" most certainly do not pay most of the taxes in this country.

 

This is a small group of people who are interfering with the life and safety of the rest of americans. I'm sick of them. Bring out water hoses and pepper spray, dogs, swat teams, rubber bullets and jail them all. It is a travesty that the city governments are putting the police in these positions and allowing them limited action. If this keeps up this coming summer is going to be hell from these filthy hippies. I believe these rabble would desire a few deaths. I do think there will eventually be a couple police deaths but it won't stop them. The media will say it is the fault of the police.

These people are a danger to themselves but especially to the rest of us. Having said that....if this continues i hope they freeze to death on the streets this winter.

 

Sit Ubu... sit.

If I burn down my shed and break my windows in my house you believe the police should shoot me and my family?

People destroying property should be prosecuted. Not shot. That is probably why everyone affected by the actions of the Guard was given almost 700,000 dollars by the courts.

OBTW... so am I.

And as a taxpayer, I reserve the right to protest.

Your reply does not change my statement in the slightest. I appreciate your revelation of your character.

 

They are middle to upper middle class.

I did not mean to suggest that those few thousand households carry the burden... but their economic class does.

 

I can feel the love for our fellow human beings!!

 

Shut up hippy.





I keed I keed... welcome to the site.


No but really... touchy feely gets left at the door.

 

Ummmmm ...... I am part of the 53% as well. As are many here. It is not "their" class. My kids are not out making jackasses of themselves either.

More importantly, you noted the relatively high costs of attending UC Davis. As noted by other posters, such as Roon, and put so succintly by Gingrich in the last debate, the reason for the uber-rising cost of education is government. Once again government has created a huge moral hazard, this time by essentially loaning to students whatever money is needed to pay for whatever education they are able to pursue. There is no accountability component left with regard to the choice of major, or its cost, until after school is complete. At which time many students realize they owe a fortune for something not worth 2 cents. As we are seeing, students are graduating with $150K of debt for degrees that few employers see similar value in. Liberal government has once again interfered in capitalism, just as it did housing, only now with education, and (*)(*)(*)(*)ed it up pretty darn good.

 

Thank you!

Well, OK then.

Let me put it another way.

What the hell is wrong with you people!?!?

These are your fellow Americans you're talking about water-hosing, pepper-spraying, dog setting and rubber-bulleting. Do you really hate your fellow citizens to this extreme degree? I am amazed.

 

Awesome! I needed a good laugh... I keep replaying the video over and over and laughing harder every time I see it. That cop was pepper spraying those nimrods like he was watering his garden. People who say that was police brutality have no clue what real police brutality is, those cops did what needed to be done in a professional way in the face of such idiocy and hatred for them, they should be commended.

 

Right on, but you left out the part that since these loans are backed by and guaranteed by the government, there is nothing keeping the universities from raising tuition ever higher and higher. If the schools are guaranteed their money by the government, then why not keep jacking up the rates again and again until we are at the point now where college tuition has rose faster than inflation and anything else in the economy.

 

Um... me thinks ye thinks me a foolish parents basement dweller.

I agree with everything there.

The assertion was that these "parasites" have never worked and contribute nothing to society... part of the 47% who pay no taxes... I was suggesting that either their parents are footing the bill and pay a lot of taxes, or they are supporting themselves and paying taxes. It is not the cheapest school... in the cheapest area. It was my experience in college, which I worked 3 jobs to afford, most of the kids who got themselves into trouble with student loans did so out of rank stupidity. It was the first time anyone would give them thousands of dollars for signing a piece of paper... and they blew it on all kinds of stuff. Now... I am sort of old. I don't know the statistics on those who actually invest that money in their education... but most people go to schools that offer what they want, that they are accepted to, that is deemed "affordable". Now... that last bit is where what you said comes into play... they google "starting salary bachelors" and whatever their career is... then masters... and try and use these lies as a measure of affordability.

I think I am rambling... and not talking about the OP any more.

 

All citizens are not equal in anyone's estimation; depends on which side of the pepper spray can you see yourself on.

Why didn't they just move?

Just sayin'...you CHOOSE it, you OWN it; no one kept them from getting up,and abiding by the law,did they?

No snivelling...

 

Which is why jobs are being lost over it etc.


Oh... and btw... it didn't work. It made the situation worse. And now the occutards everywhere are more emboldened.

But you keep laughing simple Jack.

 

The University cop will probably lose his job over it. But one must understand their frustration when the students refuse to follow their orders. Technically, they are probably within their right to use pepper spray whenever students don't follow their orders. You know.....there are many other students going there too. And their rights to get around campus unimpeded is being violated as well.

What is their beef anyway?

 

Who's job was lost over this? The police chief defended the cop's actions, and it didn't make the situation worse, no violence took place, just the idiots sitting on the ground were dragged away and no riot ensued which is what the cops were trying to prevent. Your post shows how emotionally involved you are in this whole matter and how you fail to look at the situation objectively and honestly. That's simple, Jack.

Just for you I'm going to watch the video again and laugh even harder.

 

LOL .... I thought I at least implied such

I just tried to find Newt's response from the last debate on YouTube, and could not. But it is brilliant.

Liberals need to WTFU .... (not holding my breath, btw) .... but its "give"rnment at every turn that is screwing things up. Not Wall Street. Not "corporate greed", which is an eternal given libs ... corporations exist to pursue profit, the only issue is whether they obey the law.

What we have with these idiot liberal occupiers is the fully brainwashed belief that anyone but government is at fault. Class envy. "Its not my fault I suck".

Why are liberals so god(*)(*)(*)(*) stupid ? Everyone has a brain fart from time to time, and we all can't be Einstein ... but jeeeesus criminy, why are liberals so god(*)(*)(*)(*) stupid ?

 

I just looked up and found out what their beef is: increases in tuition.

"The governor, the Assembly members and the senators have continued to cut our budget over and over and over," said Alfredo Mireles, UC's student regent. "Let me tell you why that pisses me off. When it was these people's turn to go to college, and when it was their opportunity to go to the University of California, they went practically for free. But how come when it's our turn it costs $13,000, with the potential of going up to $22,000?"​

Read more: http://blogs.sacbee.com/capitolaler...t-tuition-hikes-at-capitol.html#ixzz1eDO026VW​

This is the problem with FREE stuff. It becomes expected by everyone else....from then on out. And eventually they discover that money doesn't grow on trees. Perhaps it would be a real good idea for these students to stop listening to their liberal professors and take a few Economics courses. It's happening nationally too.....this overspending. And it's why our grandchildren will be getting the bill for all these years of living like money grows on trees.

Time to STOP the overspending, folks!! And these students better learn that now. ​

 

You get to. You are the reason there is always a fat guy on SNL. It's funny to watch the fat man fall down... or get kicked in the nuts.

I am one of the most outspoken critics of OWS. I know more about it than most... and if you read the thread, you will find that the faculty association, the students, the parents of students, and the community at large are calling for the University administrator to resign. The faculty have written a letter demanding it.

This is, for those of us who want OWS to wither and die, objectively, and honestly, authority shooting itself in the foot.

Tell me how it works in your head movie.

 

No they aren't within their rights. Just because the police administer law doesn't mean that they themselves don't also have to follow the law. And if they can't handle frustrating situations calmly and reservedly, they have no right to be a cop. And there are a lot of crooked cops out there who get away with selling drugs, planting drugs, police brutality, etc. I mean, your argument that police should be able to lash out in violence when someone doesn't "follow orders" is wrong. Why would we want to give near-unlimited power and a gun to someone who can't control their temper and acts in a sadistic manner toward citizens?

If you look at the photo, there is plenty of room to walk around the students. This is nothing more than a case of bullying. It is indubitable proof to the public that police brutality has been occurring, which is something that many people following OWS already knew. It has taken this blatant case of overstepping power to hopefully cause more people to look into the ideas of the movement and think about freedom and their rights, and begin questioning the legitimacy of this illusion Americans hold that authority figures are infallible and unchallengeable.