for those who think being on welfare is easy.

I suggest the dying hole. Dig, crawl in and wait for death.

 

I haven't seen any ads in the paper for COBOL programers. I have seen ads for C+ or Visual Basic but they all add on other things I've never heard of before. I thought about getting the latest version of Visual Basic and playing with it, but it was too expensive.

The other problem I have is that I've never written a program that wasn't assigned to me either by a teacher or an employer. Every time I try I end up throwing it away before it's even 10% complete because I can't make up my mind exactly what to write.

I don't have the fire I used to have. I'm ready for retirement.

 

I once laid on my couch for a week hoping to starve to death. But every time I got hungry I would get up and open the fridge and eat something so it didn't work.

 

People don't advertise for programmers in the newspaper in this day and age. You might have to relocate, or you might just get a job you can do from your living room in your bathrobe. Neither will be in your local paper.
http://jobsearch.monster.com/jobs/?q=COBOL&cy=us
http://www.simplyhired.com/a/jobs/list/q-cobol
http://www.indeed.com/jobs?q=Cobol&l=

First three results. There's about 8000 jobs without trying to look in ONE of the languages you know. Go (*)(*)(*)(*)ing do something.

As expected. Long on excuses and justifications. You don't want to work... and you haven't EARNED retirement.

The long and short of it?

Welfare is easier.

Epic thread fail.

 

if he doesn't feel like working he shouldn't have to, it looks like he has a good disability claim from the bipolar and ocd mentioned earlier

early retirement, look into binder and binder from the TV

 

Failure abound.

Shocker you are both on the left with your hands out.

By all means... I should work my ass off to pay for your lazy asses. How many kids do you both have?

 

and you've earned it by golly.

 

Bipolar disorders and OCD can be treated with medication and are not an excuse for not working for a living. It's like saying "I don't want to go to work because I refuse to set my alarm clock." Take the meds and get a job.

 

I have a job. I have to get up early, get ready, make my lunch that I had to buy because I dont have Food Stamps. Go to a job that I had to have a drug test on because so many low lifes out there that it infringes on my rights. I have to drive my ratty car that should not be on the road. I have to spend between $3 to 4 per gallon because I do have a job to go to. I never went to college because I would have to pay for it instead of making others pay for it with there taxes. But because of that my future does not look as bright as your sisters son.
When I get to work I have to put up with people that dont always treat me nice. Lousy custermers, lousy coworkers, lousy bosses, all while I'm trying to do the work I was hired to do.
I don't understand why anyone would have a job if they didn't have to. It's frustrating as hell getting anything done with these people.

 

I have no scholarly research by have known alot of people, including family menbers on welfare. They have had offrecord jobs. Eat a hell of a lot better than I did and sold the excess at times for .50 cents on the dollar. They would also go stand in line at the food hand out places. There is lots of humanitarian businesses out there that give clothing furniture etc. Even houses, my brothers best friend had a nice 3 bedroom brick home in a nice area for almost nothing in payments or utilities. It of coures took him years on the list to get it. That frusterated him all the waiting and red tape. It took him only one year to lose it from non payment. I've worked all that time and I still dont have a house. So I dont see the difference of filling out some paperwork from time to time and waithing and the same amount of time waiting with no hope of a letter letting me know that I won the house lottery. Instead I have to see dayly that I need a lot more money before I can ever dream of owning a home. But when I do get one I hope, and belive, that I will value it more than my brothers best friend did.

 

Visual Basic, Visual C# and the rest of Visual Studio are free. I started out writing Pacbas and COBOL, went through PowerBuilder and currently work with C#. I'm more management now, but I still write a little code. Once you learn how to write code, switching languages is just learning a little syntax.

You will be hard-pressed to find a COBOL job, most of those are filled with old guys who have been doing the jobs since y2k and will stay in the job until they retire. There are occasional openings, but they are usually either just patched using temporary consultants, or have dozens of people with 30+ years experience fighting over them.

The lack of any certifications will be a problem. Most employers require some kind of certification, although a few will take experience and a great work history instead. Overall broad work experience and knowledge is the key to getting a good programming job. The best ones require coders with knowledge in several different languages and databases.

You probably won't find any jobs in the paper. You may have luck online, but you have to spread your feelers wide. Sometimes you just have to network. If you did good work at your previous jobs, ask the people that you used to work with if they know of any openings. Most jobs are filled before they ever get advertised, so the most effective way to find a job is to find out about unadvertised openings.

As for the issue with starting a new job, my dad retired, but ended up taking on a new job as well as consulting on his old job. My mom didn't bother retiring, she just added on a second career - including going back to school part time to get training. Both are financially able to retire, but choose to continue working. My grandfather did retire a couple of years ago. He was 90. Until then, he had been working light construction and carpentry.

When you are 90 I'll accept the "need to retire" excuse.

 

Petroleum outdoor cooker? What is that?

 

They don't care. They don't WANT to work. They are just rationalizing their own excuses for being lazy.

I posted over 10,000 Cobol jobs. Took all of 20 seconds to find. There are many more.

They don't need a GOOD programming job. They need and deserve entry level.

Correct.

 

Thanks for the links I added them to my favorites for possible further exploration. Any idea where I could get a good COBOL compiler, or VB for that matter for free that will work on Windows 7 computer. My VB compiler was made for Win 95 it's been so long since I've used it I doubt it'll work on windows 7 which is what I use now. I've never owned a personal COBOL compiler.

Maybe I will get back into programing. Programing for me used to be equal to playing games, ie it was fun.

oh FYI forget pascal and assembler, I've never written anything in them outside of a classroom. But I have loads of old real world experience with COBOL and VB.

 

I tried to get service related disability but I have no proof I was bi-polar while in the service. I can't file regular disability for bi-polar because I make more than $2500 a month in income.

 

Your right. I'm drowsy all day but I manage to do my job through sheer determination. If you want to you can.

 

maybe you justt aughta get your arse out of bed and do something.
If not, I hope you starve.

 

that's the rub, my previous computer programing job was 12 years ago. Normally employers don't care about any experience older than 5 years. I've been a courier now for about 16 years but it's about to become obsolete.

 

Exactly. Evidently, not hard enough to make her want to get productive and get a job. Yes, OP, even the handicapped work at jobs.

 

Natural gas cooker, I don't know what they call them I just know she has one. Got that little container costs $22 to fill it up with gas.

 

What objection is to the employee paying for half of that tax? In my opinion, it would be more fair to the employer.

 

I got the time wrong. My last computer job was 1993. I've been a courier now for about 16 years and done nothing else in that time period. Started out working 60+ hours a week making close to a thousand a week before tapering off to where it is now. Banks don't need couriers like they used to and soon won't need them at all.

 

RU trying to say Propane?

 

understood but if you feel that work is too much on you quit and get on the disability dole at your age they will give you early retirement from social security

doesn't matter if you are medicated either just get the binder and binder from the TV ads they will help you

good luck in your welfare pursuits

 

AND the EMPLOYER funds Workman's Compensation in much the same manner.
Since the checks come from the State, the idiots think it is the govt supplying that money. Its NOT, it is the dreaded, horrible, greedy, EMPLOYER, still paying for an employee no longer producing anything but methane.