Its time all banks are government controlled

AS clear evidence as shown, the privately owned banking system has fail beyond anyone comprehension. There is no choice but for the government to come in and take them over, capping CEO pay at 25% of their usual pay, while using the saved money to loan out to real people with real problems. Banks must be under heavy regulation with executive pay being raised only by congressional approval. Again its a well known common knowledge fact that 85% of the entire country wants this. America wants socialism and it is coming weather the unamerican idiots like it or not.

 

Oh great. As if the Fed weren't bad enough.

 

You're correct; things are headed for a MASSIVE change, even now. People aren't going to put up with being ripped-off forever.

 

the banks are moving towards being nationalized, as of right now the regulators are putting alot of pressure on them but they are still betting that a republican will be elected in 2012

of course if that happens no nationalisation but most likely more government control is expected for the next 5 years on the markets including financial

 

I'd really like to know where you got those numbers.

Also I don't know how you can trust the government to run the banks. The government is running a huge deficit and not even bothering to attempt to really do anything about it. Also what if you owe the government money in the form of back taxes; do you really think they're going to give you a loan, or any of your money after you deposit your pay check? It would be like working for a bank, being required to keep your money in that bank, and the bank doing everything it can to go further into debt, taking the value of your pay down with it. Na, I'd rather stick with private business thanks. I find I like having a choice, especially if the one option I'm going to presented with as the place to deal with my finances is itself a financial meltdown.

 

Everyone agrees, private banks are ab abysmal failure worse than anything the world has seen. The government is much more trustworthy than some idiot CEO who has zero intelligent. Much like 90% of CEOs according to the VAST majority of America.

 

Sorry this thread is against your stupid right wing talking points. We only deal in reality and truth in this thread.

 

I'd like to know how you came to the conclusion that people who run mega corporations lack intelligence and politicians are trustworthy. Do we live in the same dimension or has the net finally expanded outside of this realm?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY_ZgAvXsuw"]The Dimensions Explained - YouTube[/ame]

 

Yes, I'm trying to bring reality and truth to this thread. Do you have a point? Where did the numbers come from? Why do you think the government can somehow manage banking better than the banks, especially given the fact that it can't even manage its own money. Don't forget about the government pillaging our retirements back when social security worked. Do you really want them pinching your account to study the environmental effects of goat sex or goto war with yet another 3rd world nation?

 

Look at the crash of 2008, that was completely CEO caused. All banks CEOs must be forced to pay 75% of their pay to taxes that will go to the poor. Of course details the consequences of failing to pay their share will result in 10 year prison terms. CEOs should have a much harder time than real people.

 

Please keep right wing talking points out of my thread.

 

Please join reality. Should you decide to do so I may be back, but it's clear from what you have written this is just some 'vengeance against the rich' tirade and you have absolutely no interest in discussing, seeing disagreement as 'right wing talking points.'

I'll leave you to the fun, just let me know if you actually feel like discussing anything. Oh and if you haven't seen that video I liked before, watch it. It does a really good job of explaining dimensions, though so far as I'm concerned it's all fake. A good head trip though

 

Good get the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of my thread. We don't want right wing talking points here.

 

If the best they can come up with is OWS , they will put up with quite a lot more before they hit the streets fighting . And if Push really comes to Shove you will then see Right Wing defensive politics in action .Big Time .
It may be a huge mess but there is no solution even remotely possible without remarkable sacrifice . The almost guaranteed action we will see is delaying tactics ( QE3 etc or more obtuse Fed action) and a lot of door shutting after the whole herd of horses has disappeared .imo

 

Face it America is heavily left leaning. Deal with it.

 

That's a lie. Frank, Dodd, were behind the legistation/regs that eased lending standards, at the behest of asvocacy groups including ACORN and SEIU.

Wow, what a thing to write. SO totalitarian.

WOW, just when I thought you couldn't get more extreme, you topped it. I just don't know what to say, Montoya.
Have you converted to communism???

 

Oh I forgot its "communist" to demand better worker pay and less power for the 1%.

 

I think Google has given me a fair translation into English .
If you mean that America Politics is leaning towards the Left , I suggest that you unscrew your head and put it back on the right way round .
There , that's better .
Regardless , I was born lucky and am English , so it is you that will have to essentially deal with your own mess .

 

Saying bank CEOs should be FORCED to pay 75% of their pay in taxes for the poor or go to prison?

Totalitarian govts, including communists have been famous for forcing the earned wealth away from businessmen. I'm not happy with these people all that much myself, but FORCING them to give up 75% of their pay is strictly a totalitarian thing to do and indefensible.

Did you sit on a tack or something???

 

Honey, I can tell when you are tired and irritable. Go get some rest. Please.
We'll battle later.

 

If you think what you SEE with present-day OWS is all that it will be... then you are missing the point. OWS is a "movement" of the PEOPLE; it will adapt to various challenges and resistances for some time (it is organic). And that is what a LOT of BIG-SHOTS trying to run things from ivory towers fear.

(see the above) People KNOW what's wrong with America, or at least have the momentum to PUSH and/or SHOVE for CHANGE as they must. The people are determined (BIG-TIME)!!

But those with the MONEY on the RIGHT, will ultimately have NO MORE (and likely not equal) to the intensity of the OWS movement itself. People are reasonably tired and disgusted with being MANIPULATED by CORPORATE wealth and influence. They are 'finally' paying attention to REALITY. There is no RHETORIC to talk-around the will of the people right now... there is only real policy and actions which those PEOPLE WILL SCRUTINIZE and/or ACT (politically) UPON.

That is what this OWS will mean; for the coming 2012 elections and beyond.

That "delaying" won't be 'tolerated' by the public for much longer. People are watching closely/intently at what politicians are doing. The usual Right vs. Left politics will be put on HOLD or traded for something much different overall. Watch and see.

We'll see; but I virtually certain that A LOT IS ABOUT TO CHANGE POLITICALLY IN AMERICA.

 

I admire your sincerity and faith , Johnny C . We had such a preacher in the UK for a decade ( Tony Bliar) -- the biggest disaster in at least the last century .
Beware the man just talking from sincerity and faith .

Observations

Your hopes and dreams are admirable but are identical to those given by every Apologist ever .
People do not know what is wrong , otherwise we would have more than a bunch of campers flying the flag .
The time to make really big money is when things are going bad . It's called Contrarian Investment , Johhny , and this time you can lump in making a fortune from Commodities .
Watching Politicians will give you nothing . They haven't a clue . You don't watch electricians when the sea defences are collapsing .
You will be fed a boost to employment and growth when QE3 , or more subtle gifts , are dangled in front of you .At the right political moment .
In about decade when a new type of normality returns , the rich will be many more times richer and more powerful and they will be inextricably tied into Government so that the masses can be looked after by whatever Right Wing measures that are most appropriate .
It works in China and Russia and ironically the US will move the same way , though a far poorer relation. All imho

 

Montoya: "Everyone agrees, private banks are ab abysmal failure worse than anything the world has seen. The government is much more trustworthy than some idiot CEO who has zero intelligent. Much like 90% of CEOs according to the VAST majority of America."

Sorry, Montoya, but you and your tiny group of friends do not constitute "everyone" except in your fevered brain. "Worse than anything the world has seen". You need serious help, Montoya.

The government has been controlling banks for decades. That's why they're such a mess.

 

If socialism is coming to America than so are the Killing Filds of Cambodia. The purges of Stalin. The Government forced Famine through out many parts of Russia, like the Ukrain. The many mass exterminations in all socialist countries that I have ever hurd of. Russia, china, and dont forget or leave out natzi Germany was socialist. Socialism is slaughter.

 

That word 'demand' alone should send out red flags to everyone, and if those red flags are of the communist nature....then so be it.

Where do you and your communist OWS buddies get off 'demanding' anything in a free and open society like we have here in America? Look pal, this is a capitalistic society where one goes out and works for their living via the competitive free market. Our economic system isn't set up for whining socialists and commies like yourself to set policies to redistribute monies from the movers and shakers down to the losers and leeches. Time for you to grow a pair and stop pulling at your mother's apron string.