Which side are you on?

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    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    One of the main problems with Christians today is that they are more loyal to the government of this world than to God's government.....they have neglected telling people of God's government......they don't prag about God's government.

    They are trying to serve two masters. They use political slogans as quotes for example to express themselves, that basically defines this world and its system. Don't you all know that the very system you love to defend is and has been destined to fall? All governments of man is not God's government/system.....its Satan's system.

    It’s no wonder God is allowing what is happening to the U.S to happen. And as time progress, God will allow Satan to make this world reflect more and more of his nature. You either let go of it (this includes the U.S government/system) or it is going to take you down with it......you can't save an already dead system.
     
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    Most ppl who wear the "Christian label' are worldly, talk the right talk on Sundays but live a secular life the remainder of the week.

    And, therefore their idea of God's Govt is what they see from the many denominations of the 'Christian religion,' which are both controlling but also weak and irrelevant to their 'real' lives. Bottom line is that most who wear the label are truly ignorant of the Word of God and therefore follow men. Just as the Israelites wanted a 'man-king' (like all the other nations), and God gave them Saul---tall & handsome, but not spiritual.

    How else will the AntiChrist deceive so many (and per scripture, "almost the 'elect') in the nearing end times...
     
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    Hmmm, serving a figment of one's imagination can also be said to be serving a government, I suppose. In a sense.
     
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    and the 'law' that can fix the problem is 'no false witness'

    So for a good theist to honor any 'god' then to hold that LAW as absolute, then 'god' could be understood, by the 'word' (evolution of knowledge)
    In a sense, i agree. A liar will serve the lie over the pursuit of 'truth'
    and the evil is clearly the misleading 'lies' of theology that is and has corrupted mankind.

    It makes people break the 'commands' simply by adhering to the lies over the truth of 'no false witness'
    Or 'let go' of he beliefs and hold the integrity of truth over beliefs.

    The so called, 'master' of the west is not the government but the "invisible hand" (business) over empathy.

    ie...business has no need of retaining the virtue of compassion to others; see "the invisible hand" coined by adam smith (book; wealth of nations from 1776)

    the rube of serving 2 masters is that people will lie to themselves for their own desires
     
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    I was always taught that government was god's will, people were not supposed to rebel against government because that was rebelling against god.

    Yet, in the same text book, it said that the Founders were Christians, the country founded on Christian government, and the 2nd Amendment was designed to prevent oppressive government rule.

    I suppose they just can't quite make up their minds.
     
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    I am so glad you brought up this subject.

    1: According to the last census, 75.9 % of the population of the US is self-proclaimed Christian. That would place the majority of control well within the reach of the Christian population.

    2: Under International Law, that same group of people (Christians) could, under those international laws, cause the US to be converted to a Christian nation... both under secular law and Ecclesiastical law (Laws of God).

    Can you imagine the outrage it would cause if the majority population of the US decided to suddenly file the necessary paperwork to cause such a conversion? I mean like wow... Turning this great US into a Theocracy...

    Now aren't you glad that these Christians do not attempt to enforce their legal rights? That (enforcing their legal rights) would mean that about 24 % of the population would be willing to relocate to a country that is not
    Theocratic.

    If you want to pursue this point of discussion, then I would gladly provide you with links to the International Laws that would permit such an awesome venture on the part of the Christians of this Nation.
     
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    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    Correct. People are going to wake up to how evil this world is, then they will be ready to listen......including those that are Christians in name only.
     
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    When "Christians" pay more attention to what other people say and little to no attention to what the Bible say, they will end up being confused. People in the world cannot tell the difference between a person that is filled with the Holy Spirit, and one that goes to Church but is not filled with the Holy Spirit…..remember the parable of the wheat and the tare? They both look alike to the untrained eye. To those outside the Church as long as the person goes to Church they consider that person to be a Christian.


    And a person that is truly converted will not rebel against any government or take sides of any earthly government/system…..they may speak out against injustice, but they will not promote man’s system. A real Christian knows and understand that he or she is a representative of God's government.......a Christian is an ambassador of the kingdom of God. And an ambassador only represents one government, not two or more……we can’t serve two masters. We either tell others about God’s government or the praises of a government of this world will be on our lips.
     
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    Jesus prophesied about events that would show us that we are in the end times. But there is one prophecy that He said would be happening in which we would know that the end of this world’s evil system have come to an end. And that prophecy that He said would happen is this; the gospel of the kingdom will be preach to the world, then the end will come (Matthew 24:14).


    The preaching of this gospel is in a Christian's hands. In one sense, Christians as a whole can determine how long it will take for the return of Jesus. The longer it takes for us to get it the long its going to take for Jesus to return. The sooner we get it and start preaching that message, the faster world events that the Bible spoke about will happen and the sooner the return of Jesus will be.

    So this gospel that I am speaking about and which Jesus said would be preached, then the end will come is not being preached by the vast majority of Christian Churches.....Christians have substitute the gospel of the kingdom for preaching about Jesus.
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    That prophecy is being fulfilled now. It's mass communications that is being referred to, not as you suggest. Without Jesus there would be no Kingdom of God.
     
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    You don't understand what I am saying and Jesus is saying in Matthew 24:14. Jesus is talking about the preaching of the kingdom of God……it’s the same message that Jesus preached. What the vast majority of the Christian Church is doing and has been preaching is a message about Jesus. Jesus never went about preaching about Himself.....He preached the kingdom. The Bible says He went about preaching the gospel of the kingdom. In fact, for almost tree and a half years the disciples never even knew that Jesus was going to die......they never knew He came to die for mankind.


    What then was Jesus preaching? What was He telling them? The kingdom. He was telling them that God was inviting or offering ruler-ship in His kingdom by all the parables that He told all those He was preaching it to.....Jesus told the disciples that it was God’s pleasure to give them the kingdom (Luke 12:32)…..God wants to share His kingdom with human beings.....this was the reason why God made Adam and Eve……it’s the purpose for our existence. So until we collectively starts preaching the same message that Jesus preached the end will be delayed until we get it, and start telling people about it.

    And God will make sure we eventually get it even if He has to shake this world up to get the distractions that we are involved in, which is preventing us from seeing it.
     

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