It Is Okay To Tell Your Kids There Is No God?

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Is It Okay To Tell Your Kids There Is No God?

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  1. HillBilly

    HillBilly New Member Past Donor

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  2. kowalskil

    kowalskil New Member

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    Me too,

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    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    No, because God exist, it is not good to lie to Children!
     
  4. Makedde

    Makedde New Member Past Donor

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    Have you seen God, or spoken to him? Do you have physical proof of his existance?
     
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    So you're saying a child born into a society where gods or god aren't heard of will believe in god?
     
  6. kowalskil

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    God is a spiritual world entity, not a material world entity. That is who a "physical proof" is not needed.
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  7. Mehmet

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    this reasoning leads to this known debate:

    what is the physical proof of love?
    or pain that you are feeling?

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    a) the answer would be:
    well, i can't show the "physical" proof but i can show you the
    manifestations of those feelings, it's apparent when i do love
    someone, or feel an unbearable pain. ​
    more or less, the same... inspect the system around us.

    but you can't ignore love and pain because you, well, feel them.
    same way, some find love; some find the creator of love,
    we call him a believer.

    b) or it can be this:
    i have the subject of love as a physical proof, and i'm sure
    if i go and get an x-ray; you'll see the reason of my pain too.​
    your subject of love might be a subject of hate
    for someone else. so feelings are subjective, just like faith. not every reason
    of pain is shown in x-rays, or be understood by the medicine. but
    it doesn't mean they don't exist.


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    faith is, for a muslim,
    heart and mind co-working, processing at the same time.
    if you just rely on heart you will go after illogical suppositions,
    you'll get hurt or get clueless at best.
    if you go merely based on your logic, then you will be blind, you will try
    to reason things within your limited life experience and self -justifying
    knowledge.

    without the merge of those two aspects (heart and mind),
    you might not get a healthy view.

    on the other hand,
    Allah (God) created all matter.
    this world is a temporary product, not Allah himself.
     
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    kilgram New Member

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    I am for a critical education. So the child must take decissions on his life, forever. And as educator I just have to teach the different paths that the child can take, and the child must decide which path he will take. So, as atheist I will tell him that I consider that there is no god. But meanwhile, I will teach him that there is people that believe in it. And he must take the decission about what the child believes while is growing. With the time, he will form his own opinion about this topic and the rest.

    So, yes it is correct and necessary to teach that there is no God. But also is important to give to the child the enough tools to be free to take his own decissions, and not try to force any thinking in the child.
     
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    You'd think an entity as powerful as God would be willing to provide direct physical proof of it's existence, especially if there are consequences for simply not believing :p.
     
  10. kowalskil

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    That is an interesting wishful thinking reflection. But I am not addressing the problem of interactions between spiritual and material worlds.

    Ludwik Kowalski (see Wikipedia)
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  11. Unifier

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    Depends on how you're saying it. If you're saying, "I haven't seen enough evidence to be convinced," that's one thing. But if you're saying, "The idea of God is stupid, and only idiots believe that," then that's just plain ignorant. You are instilling poisoned values in your child right from the start; not even encouraging them to come to their own conclusion based on their own reasoning, understanding, and life experiences. There is little wisdom in what you are teaching your child. And that is wrong.
     
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    Did it all the time. And still do. Now they are able to use the brain that god gave them.
     
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    So you believe in god, because you believe in god, because someone told you god was real? No Evidence for god, no proof of god, no facts to support the existence of any god, just "someone told me"?

    Pardon me, but I will stick with facts, such as support science, not made-up beliefs that support Allah, Jehovah, Jesus, Shiva or some other superstition. And I will tell me children the facts, and let them decide for themselves.

    Fact, there is no evidence to support the existence of any god or gods.
    Fact, Computers, and Automobiles.
     
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    You should be able to tell your kids that there is no such thing as ghosts, monsters, bigfoot, UFO's, Atlantis, God, Satan, or compassionate Christian social traditionalists...all due to a lack of evidence
     
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    Roflollollolllllllolllllomfao!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  16. Clint Torres

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    Don't forget, no santa and no easter rabbits who bring plastic chiken eggs to them in the middle of the night. No tooth fairy and no demons with red faces and tails with arrows on them.
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Actually since no god or gods exist, I would think no such thing. The simple fact that there is no evidence of any gods existence is one more bit of evidence that no god or gods exist.
     
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    tomteapack New Member Past Donor

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    Why lie, just tell them that there is no evidence for gods, unicorns, flying elephants, or flame breathing dragons and be done with it.
     
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    I don't think it's good for parents to impose their conclusions on their children. Children should be raised to form their own conclusions, and think for themselves. This includes the idea of god, of course.
     
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    Parents should tell their kids neither there is or there is not, they should just let them decide for themselves. Give them moral values, right and wrong, encourage learning, self development and individuality, but don't ram religions or ideologies down their throats, let them make their own minds and give them the tools to do it. It's their life... let THEM live it.
     
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    I agree with you.
     
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    I agree. The moment you tell a kid that something is bad/wrong/evil it becomes the "forbidden fruit" and you run the risk of making the very thing you want them to avoid an object of desire. If you want your child to avoid something, instead of banning that thing, teach them skills and values that will lead them away from it.

    Want you kids to stay away from drugs? Teach them the self-confidence they will need to avoid peer pressure and coping skills so they won't ever feel the need for escapism.

    Don't want your kids to be narrow-minded fundamentalists of a questionable religion? Teach them critical thinking and to question everything.

    Remember, you can't push a string but you can lead it.
     
  23. Mehmet

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    share more than just a laughter please,
    so that we can laugh too. :)
     
  24. kowalskil

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    In other words, share with them your ideas about good and bad things. Right?

    Ludwik Kowalski (see Wikipedia)
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  25. tomteapack

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    And I disagree! Teaching children outmoded, foolish, primitive myths and superstition is what is poison. Look around!

    Reality is something that is NOT decided on. Reality IS. The reality is, there is NO evidence to support the existence of any god or gods ever imagined by man. They are myth and superstition. Teaching your child anything else is POISONOUS, wrong and foolish.
     

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