Romney Says He Pays US Taxes - About 15 Percent

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  1. Bluesguy

    Bluesguy Well-Known Member Donor

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    The numbers about Bain are solid and he will release his tax returns just as candidates in the past have. How do you twist it into being afraid when he is just following tradition?
     
  2. Cloak

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    Its sick to see conservatives defend this BS. In NYC I have a nearly 20% tax rate, and i'm middle class.
     
  3. Radio Refugee

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    ....and a sucker for tolerating all those city and state taxes.
     
  4. k995

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    All his republican opponents attack him on it, its costing him votes and still he doesnt release them. He is very afraid.
     
  5. Bluesguy

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    It's a primary campaign OF COURSE they are attacking him on anything they can think of.

    Candidates release them after they get the nomination, he said he will release his after this years is completed. How do you twist that into afraid?
     
  6. k995

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    Nobody needs to twist anything its simple reality.

    Its costing him votes now, and he wants to release them afte they are irrelevant for primary and as long as possible before the real election. thats simply fear .


    And I wonder why, if he truly believes in what he advocates he should be proud.
     
  7. Cloak

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    It's also the greatest city in the world ;)
     
  8. Radio Refugee

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    So is any city when you're 25. I used to think San Francisco was best and I'd grown up near NYC. Just young and stoooopid.

    Good luck.
     
  9. Cloak

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    Its called personal preference, and i'd wager i'm a bit less "stoopid" than you were at 25.
     
  10. Bluesguy

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    Once again tradition and history is that they are released AFTER the candidates are picked.

    However because some are trying to make an issue of he has announced he is going to release them.
     
  11. Radio Refugee

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    Dream on. I arrived in town with $100, a clapped out car and the address of a friend. Three years later I was married, owned a successful business I started on day one, owned a home and had a baby on the way.

    I was politically stoooopid, as most ever SF resident is.
     
  12. Cloak

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    Well I have a similar story, but you wouldn't know that as you prefer to just make assumptions ;)
     
  13. Radio Refugee

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    I believe it. Politically stoooopid at 25 is nearly universal amongst the cosmopolitan.
     
  14. Cloak

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    I meant as in I came from a poor farming family, paid my way through college, and moved here with nothing. But yea, sure, im "cosmopolitan". You know what they say about making assumptions...
     
  15. JamesDF

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    That has nothing to do with the fact that all 2012 republicans tax proposals include raising taxes son the poor and middle class in order to give billionaires million in tax cuts

    Nice try to distract from the issue we were talking about.

    Just look at every 2012 GOPers tax plan
    Romney plan raises taxes on poor to cut rich peoples taxes
    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2...on-wealthy.php

    Cains, Newts, and Perrys plans all raise taxes on the poor in order to decrease taxes on the rich
    http://www.ctj.org/pdf/taxday2009.pdf
     
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    Under the 16th amendment, yes, the federal government has no right to tax land. However, I am for a repeal of the 16th amendment. Furthermore, the IRS could be eliminated under my system, and tax collection could be allocated to state and local authorities, and in the case of a land value tax, in coordination with local and state urban planning, zoning, or environmental protection agencies.

    One can tax only derivatives because under my proposal, the notional values of all those derivatives will be restructured in such a way that will increase their profit by hundreds of trillions of dollars. The following thread will provide you with some basis for my ideas. They are quite innovative:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/polit...erious-discussion-derivatives-taxation-3.html

    The United States derivatives market is exactly $248 trillion dollars. Imagine what would happen if we restructured all these contracts so that their notional (hypothetical) values become real values. That means they are traded on the market at their starting points. Available capital for real investment will increase by hundreds of trillions of dollars. That will allow for unprecedented job growth. All that would be required is a 1% derivatives tax per year.
     
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    All the data and statics show that the very rich pay lower tax rates then poor people.
    Like always you are lying.

    http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-soi/07intop400.pdf
    http://www.ctj.org/pdf/taxday2009.pdf
     
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    No assumtions needed. I read your posts and that's rare since most of the PF leftwads offer nothing. You're typical. I was typical at 25. And stoooopid.
     
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    Because it didnt matter, now it does.

    And apperently he realises he cant wait that long and is releasing them.

    Wich is strange as a couple of das ago with the same comments he wasnt releasing them in months.

    Apperently the loss of a state has overcome his fear.
     
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    You get it. Romeny's in a panic. He's only releasing his tax returns because he lost in South Carolina. If he had won it would be a different story. And it was Gingrich who demanded this.
     
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    Funny how things don't change.
     
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    You said 47% pay no taxes and that is plain wrong. You're the spinning liar.
     
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    http://taxvox.taxpolicycenter.org/2011/05/05/who-pays-no-income-tax-it-is-the-wrong-question/

    The correct analysis is that two thirds of those making less than $50,000 pay no income tax. By the way, only 4 percent of those making $100,000 or more pay no income tax.

    Here are more specific statistics on this matter:

    http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxtopics/federal-taxes-households.cfm
     
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    The topic is income tax. You can't be expected to keep. You can be expected to be wrong. Again.
     
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    Per your own link they still pay taxes. "More than two-thirds one-third of those making less than $50,000 pay no federal income tax (many do pay payroll and other taxes), compared to less than 4 percent of those making $100,000 or more.

    Also per your own link: " To put it another way, the highest-income 20 percent enjoy almost two-thirds of the benefits of tax expenditures. More than one-quarter goes to the top 1 percent alone. The bottom 40 percent? They get about 10 percent (chart). For some, it may be enough to zero out their tax bill, but compared to those at the top, it isn’t much of an increase in income."

    My question is this. How is Mitt Romeny Care, going to cut taxes by hundreds of billions while maintainig social programs and resolving the debt.

    He as no true comprehensive economic policy. Nothing he says makes sense. That's why he'll never get elected.
     

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