‘Immoral’ business: Google, Starbucks, Amazon grilled over UK tax avoidance

sales tax is paid by people not companies, same with income tax, they dont pay capital gains tax either, and legally they are supposed to pay corporation tax, why do you defend corporate greed ? they steal from you too

 

so how many americans have you interacted with ? my guess is it would be tens of thousands, so you know nothing about americans either then ? tens of thousands is plenty to make an informed judgement, I hate debating with americans they are so (*)(*)(*)(*) stupid, their brains dont even function properly, thats why you end up having to explain stuff like this to very very stupid people. its tiring.

 

I think, as CharlieChalk alluded to, you mainly see this from American's, because they seem to regard it as being in some way virtuous. Making money, no matter how the money is made, is condusive to the ethos central to the American dream. The accumulation of wealth is thus regarded as being CREATED by the super rich (virtuous) rather than being reconfigured and redistributed to them from the poor via the tax system which is the less virtuous reality. The fact that the former is regarded as being consistent with the ethos of the American dream as opposed to the notion that it's the said dream of prosperity for all that's of true value, is the counter-intuitive element that they miss.

 

They defend corporate greed, because for at least 25yrs or more, that is the way they have been trained to think, even corruption is defended.

Look at all the programmed bots that rushed online to defend Wall Street hucksters, who gamble US national wealth!

Turning on those that were showing the sheep where the wolf is hiding....

 

The problem with the so called American Dream? - You're better off being awake!

Also, I understand what you are saying, and you are right, however, it is something of a shallow or finite virtue to pursue.

 

Greed through the accumulation of money for accumulation's sake is good because greed is good. The more greedy you are the more virtuous you are. That's the mentality underpinning the American dream.

 

true, and what is the inverse of that ? the poor are lacking in virtue and deserve their fate, thats why the american paradigm clearly hates poor people, does nothing for them and even discriminates against them

 

Yes I know, but it leads, imo, to a less functinonal society, and a more empty one..

 

Indeed, growth for growth sake in a planet of finite resources will ultimately be the end of all of us. That's the central contradiction of capitalism. As Walter Benjamin put it, "capitalism is the nightmare which I am trying to awake from"

 

Oh yes, that's the American dream for you. It's a nightmare.

 

Very well said.

 

Its on the other side/beyond the English channel. They're not British / French/Dutch/Belgium or even German. They speak a mongrel/bastardized language called "Luxembourgish" (wink)


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thats consumerism for you, relies on people constantly consuming more and more regardless of need, which leads where ? as you say, in a world of finite resources...

 

But you can choose to not to be that way, if you really want to, and you can think enough, and you do not mind not being judged for not having the latest I Phone, or something...

 

Consumerism is the lifeblood on which capitalism depends. Capitalism as an economic system and the inherent profit motive that is its driving force, is leading us off the precipise.

 

The US is no longer a nation, in the true sense.

It is like one massive corporation, owned by and for, a few billionaires, and some corporations.

There are no citizens, there is also a target market.

They have not a democracy, but a plutocracy..

 

And the ones at the top of the pyramid are the pyschopaths but ironically widely regarded as heroes, the culmination of the American Dream, if you will. Those in the feeder chain like leading CEOs and their underlings are essentially the puppets of a psychopathic system that functions by the rules pertaining to it's own irrational logic.

If you can imagine what starts of as a small snowball that rolls down a a seemingly infinite mountain picking up an ever increasing amount of seemingly endless debris on its way down, then one gets close to understanding the nature of the system. The thing is though, the mountain isn't an infinite space in time in which the snowball picks up infinite debris, but a finite one in which it picks up virtually all that it can because it's fast coming to the point in time in which it comes to a standstill. That's where we are at.

The problem is that the elites who designed the system for their own benefit, thought that the snowball would be able to roll infinitely down would they perceived to be an infinite mountain. At the very least they were selfish enough to think that neither they, nor immediate generations, would be the ones to pick up the pieces, but that others further down the chain would as a result of the footprint left by preceding generations.

We're at the point now where it's going to be our children and our children's children who will be left with the mess. That's if they have a mess to clean up. If environmental degradation doesn't kill us, then nuclear war will. I know it's a depressing thought for many people to consider but the reality is they are the two choices humanity will be faced with in the coming years.

The madmen truelly have taken over the asylum.

 

Companies doing business in Britain, are based out of Luxembourg

 

No more so than in any other developed country.

 

Never heard of Britains referring to Europe as "overseas".

 

I think thats Human Nature.

 

you have to cross a sea to get to luxemburg from britain, that was the point, it is literally 'overseas'

 

nonsense, its not human nature to want to buy a new phone every 10 months cause it has a new gadget, human nature would see you replace your phone when you lose it or break it or it gets stolen, buying a new one every year cause all your friends will have it and it has a new gadget is consumerism

 

I disagree.

I would say much more so than almost any.

 

Amusing conceit...let the thieves define morality to line government's pockets ...