‘This is new territory’: Trump’s address proves newsworthy, but networks see risks

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  1. MrTLegal

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    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/ne...-proves-newsworthy-networks-see-risks-n956261

    The decision to air Trump's decidedly political speech (while several refused to air Obama's for that very reason) is an interesting one. They must balance a duty of maintaining a brand of neutrality and reporting the news truthfully against Trump's propensity to use the media in order to spread false information.

    I think the decision to air it live, and aggressively fact check, is the proper decision given the harm currently imposed to the country by Trump's shutdown.

    Besides, as Nate Silver noted, Trump is rated - consistently - as "honest" by 32-38% of the country (that rating is consistently lower than his approval rating). His propensity to lie is well known.

    The decision by all of the networks to air the Democratic rebuttal is a correct call as well.

    With that said, **** Trump if he thinks I am going to stroke his ego by boosting his TV viewer ratings.

    #BoycottTrumpPrimeTime
     
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    Exactly right, they agreed to air it for ratings.
     
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    I predict Pelosi's response.

     
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    Whatever sells commercial time. Personally, I don't watch/listen to these things, so I will check the forum tomorrow and read what people are angry about.
     
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    Truth is dangerous.

    Maybe they can burn some books after to feel better.
     
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    I hope mental health clinics around the country are prepared.
     
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    ...I am not sure that Trumpettes have enough books to make anything more than a small campfire.
     
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    Yet I always win.
     
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    At no point did I say or imply that ratings was the factor.
     
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    I agree completely. He's not a particularly good public speaker in this kind of venue anyway. He always seems stiff or uncomfortable and slow in delivery with planned remarks such as his inaugural address or his acceptance speech. Its like a 14 year old being asked to read a poem in class, he dreads it and it shows. When Trump breaks away from the prepared address, he gets his rhythm, but he lies and exaggerates so much anyone who is not a Trumpster will be offended.

    . Unfortunately, I cannot recall an occasion when an opposition response got anything like the Presidents ratings, so only newssies and political types will listen to the Pelosi/ Schumer rebuttal. Nobody pays any attention. In fairness, none of these three are orators.
     
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    any presidential address shouldn't be a choice for networks to air or not, neither should it be delayed to blurp out words/phrases...

    that said, there hasn't been an honest trustworthy news outlet in a decade or two, they all opine. there should be a dedicated audio/video broadcast, of each and every presidential address ( limited to once per week & 3 hours), that airs over every channel just like the ebs... especially in this day & age of twist & context manipulation. this would get the people informed of what was actually spoken complete with tone and inflections...

    we dont need someone else telling us what the prez meant or said... its this commentary opine twisting bs that has divided the country and most of america seems to be victim to it...
     
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    Is it because you include the word "losing" in your definition of winning?

    It would make sense considering that you are trying imitate trump.
     
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    You are talking about C-SPAN
     
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    No it's because you either hyperventilate or just hang in there until you hit rock bottom.

    You gonna tell me in the other thread where illegal aliens have a right to enter the US or no?
     
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    yes, they broadcast in its entirety...
    have it go out over every network without interuption nor any commentary...

    those media moguls that dont agree, can just move to a country they feel more comfortable with, perhaps the one that sports their tattoo likeness on the state flag... hammer n sickle ;)
     
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    They simply can't real time fact check the volume and speed of lies that will ensue but it will still be a spectacle.
     
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    This is mega-whataboutism......
     
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    the networks made the right call denying coverage of Obama's political speech, where he did a massive flip flop, and used illegal immigrants as pawns. This however, is a real national security crisis we are facing....the DNC has betrayed the American people, and threatened the safety of our nation by supporting cartels, and the sex trade over the security of our borders and safety of our agents.
     
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    we can be certain that they will interupt the broadcast, to cherry pick a word or phrase to twist, every minute or less... as they always do...
     
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    i'll disagree with their choice to not broadcast it it was tantamount to censorship, it isnt their choice to decide what america hears/sees...
     
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    I realize that it has been a while since the nation stopped and paid attention (for the most part) when the President spoke on national television. But they don't show commercials.

    Indeed, networks hated Presidential events because they cost money and generated no return.

    Frankly, I think the nation should sit straight and pay attention when the President speaks (even ones like this one).

    There are a number of reasons why.

    But two in particular make it especially imporatant with this President.

    This is the one format in which the President appear in which there is no audience, and no one to play to or against. Just Trump, the camera and hundreds of millions.

    By his choice of words, demeanors, he will communicate unfiltered with people. And the impression he makes will be remembered by the entire audience.

    The other is whether he will be honest with his audience.

    The extraordinary thing about this is that just about no one expects him to.

    Whats even more extraordinary is that Trump is blustering about declaring a national emergency. Which will almost certainly trigger a constitutional crisis even before the Russian thing bubbles over.

    Given that fact, what would it be like if we actually had a REAL national emergency?

    I ask the question because the one thing that makes this manufactured crisis especially noteworthy is that we are crippled with a leader we do not trust.
     
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    I not sure crazy liberals have enough brain power to do anything but foam at the mouth saying trump bad so what's your point?
     
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    agreed... i'll add that the networks need to not chime in with their commentary during the address... it should always be this way, regardless of whom it is...
     
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    Anyone who is claiming the southern border isn't a crisis is hard to take serious. Between the gangs, terrorists, drugs and human smuggling alone most decent people would be honest enough to say it's a crisis and MUST be fixed. I don't give a damn how you do it, give your dreamers amnesty, give Trump the wall, let in more LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, deport illegals permanently that commit a crime and I don't care how many babies they have that's on them. Find out who is coming into this country now before you start having annual terrorist attacks like France, we are ready have kids dying all over the place from drugs and a lot if not most come through a border that we can fix get it done congress! Quit kicking the damn can down the road for the next generation this is pathetic.
     

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