“Famous ‘infidel’ offers $5,000 if critic proves error in his book”

What you're saying is that the standards of liberal democracy are superior. Isn't that what the Muslims are saying about their own standards?.

Even though they are extreme opposites, both want to impose their own beliefs on others as being morally superior. In that respect they are the same. It's sort of like the nationalism of Germany and the internationalism of the Soviet Union. They were opposite ideologies and they fought one another tooth and nail, yet both were similar in wanting to impose their own system and beliefs on the rest of the world.

Anyway no one should be imposing themselves on others. Civilizational growth should come at a cultures own pace and take the direction that best suits them providing they don't impose or hinder others in their own freedom of choice.

 

No need to force anyone to convert to Christianity. It's an Enlightenment that comes from the prayers and martyrdom of the Saints - otherwise Christianity wouldn't thrive when under persecution.

It's these Saints who fought lions and lit up the Roman games as human torches during the first centuries. It's also these Saints who died rather than convert to Islam throughout the centuries - as well as the tens of millions in the USSR that was sent to the Gulag.

Add to that the millions dying today in the ongoing genocide in Syria, the Middle East, Far East and Africa and the martyrdom has probably reached a 100 million or more.

 

Preach the truth!

 

both books have there red meat for the fanatics for sure

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Chronicles+15:13&version=KJV

2 Chronicles 15:13

King James Version (KJV)

13 That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman.

 

How to completely circumvent the topic, mate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_...iolent_events_by_death_toll#Terrorist_attacks
Golly gee, Sherlock. I wonder what religion is the cause of the biggest atrocities in the world as far as terrorism(Jihad) goes...

https://www.statista.com/statistics/313086/number-of-suicide-bombings-worldwide/
276 suicide bombings in 2013. Make a guess which religion.

Hint: Muhammad as a "prophet".

 

How many Christian terror attacks are their annually compared to Islamic terror attacks?

 

what? convert of kill was party of both the Christian and Muslim religions beginnings, sad but true

torture was also used as well as banishment

even today some want to use the power of the government to force their religion on other peoples children

 

Key word: Was. Do you want me to list the annual apostasy killings done to ex-Muslims, mate?

 

never said otherwise, Christians been there done that, thank you for at least admitting that

Muslim's fanatics right now are king of the hill in that dept, maybe someday they will calm down - what I fear is fanatical Christians and Muslims starting a full out religious war

 

never said Christians were the worst at this time in history, just that they been there done that....

 

Lol, fanatical Christians and Muslims? Let them. Put them in a damn arena and let the trash duke it out. Winner gets a .50 cal shelling.

 

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some say Iraq was a Christian religious war too

"It’s Official: Bush Admin Saw Iraq As Religious War"

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/its-official-bush-admin-s_b_204745

"Again and again, security updates were adorned with bible passages. “Open the gates that the righteous nation may enter, the nation that keeps faith (Isaiah 26:2).” “Behold, the eye of the LORD is on those who fear Him, On those who hope for His loving kindness, To Deliver their soul from death. (Psalm 33:16-19).”"

"U.S. Military Weapons Inscribed With Secret 'Jesus' Bible Codes"

https://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/us-m...bed-secret-jesus-bible-codes/story?id=9575794

"Iraq war briefings headlined with biblical quotes, reports US magazine"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/may/18/rumsfeld-gq-iraq-bible-quotes-bush

"Rumsfeld, said to be personally disinclined toward ostentatious displays of piety, included the quotes because he believed the religious message would appeal to Bush, whom he knew frequently to quote the Bible, journalist Robert Draper wrote."

"George Bush: 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq'"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa




the point is, both religions have their fanatics throughout history

 

This whataboutism is rather fun to watch. Is talking about the deaths caused by Islam and Muslims such a taboo topic for you?

 

thank you for admitting both religions have an evil past, that is all I was saying - thank you

I am saying BOTH religions have done evil things, Muslims and Christians, you seem to agree

if your not denying it, then we are done here

 

no way, trust me, we all suffer if we have another religious war, things would get very ugly fast

 

Let’s just say a surgeon and a Jack-the-Ripper both use scalpels, but that doesn’t make them moral equals, it makes them mortal enemies.

The only idea Western civilization wishes to impose on the others is the same standard that Klaatu wished to impose on Earth, the immorality of the initiation of force.

As for Germany and Russia, two sides of the same altruistic/collectivist coin, both demanded the sacrifice of the individual to the common good, as defined by the state. Like what both the American Left and Right of today are demanding, one in the name of socialism, the other in the name of Nationalism. Not much of a choice, except to fight them both.

 

They switch the subject to Christianity because they can’t defend the atrocities committed by Muslims with reason or logic. I’ve debated people about this time and time again and they would rather turn and bash Christians, Jews, and other religions than dare so much as think of admitting that what Muslims are doing is morally unacceptable and often a violation of human rights

Makes you think...

 

Hmmm. Charlemagne might beg to differ.

”He continued his father's policy towards the papacy and became its protector, removing the Lombards from power in northern Italy and leading an incursion into Muslim Spain. He campaigned against the Saxons to his east, Christianizing them upon penalty of death and leading to events such as the Massacre of Verden. He reached the height of his power in 800 when he was crowned "Emperor of the Romans" by Pope Leo III on Christmas Day at Rome's Old St. Peter's Basilica.”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlemagne

Of course, Constantine, got it all started with forced baptisms. Right?

 

Keep your woman close and your whip closer. So said God!
Or was it the Dangeon Master?

 

LOLOLOL

He is a renowned Muslim scholar.
He lived in the area, he reads, writes, and speaks the language.
He tells the truth about the religion and proves everything he says.
Remember, muslims are obligated to lie to the kaffir about the religion, to hide it's intents, that comes from Big Mo himself.


Nobody from the Islam higharcy will debate him on a public forum, because he tears them apart.

We need a public debate with scholars from both sides on public TV.
People need to know what Islam is all about, before they vote on anything.

10 years ago there were few scholars in the west, now there are several,
And holy cow, they all say the same thing.

Dude, the stuff is all written down, and actively followed by the people.

 

He is such a hater that he got banned from entering the UK. lol

I don't think a Jew would like to have a debate with Hilter about the Jew problem as well.

 

But you are mistaken and misleading.
Both religions have not done the same evil things.
The people in both religions have done evil things.
But Islam, and not Christianity, orders the people to do evil things.

 

LOLO why was he banned from the UK.

BTW, He is not the only one banned, there are quite a few others.
And cut the "Hater" excuse, anyone who learns about Islam will hate it.
Except the psychopaths of course

and the Jew and Hitler comment is just plain ignorant.
We are speaking of discussing Islamic doctrine.

 

We are speaking of a disgusting Islamophobic who is on par with the most violent anti-Semites around.

 

LOL
We are speaking of an Islamic scholar who is not confined to the Islamic rules of taquyyia and kitman..

He tells the truth.

BTW, he didn't write the religion, he just reads and reports on it.