“Misunderstanding Terrorism”: How the Us vs. Them Mentality Will Never Stop Attacks

Iggy list.

you can re-read my explanations to your confused questions.

 

Reaching an accord is exactly how Irish republican and loyalist terrorism was defeated. What makes Islamic terrorism so different? Both sides in the Irish troubles had valid grievances and until this was accepted and concessions made the tit for tat killings continued.
Unless it is recognised that all sides in the current conflict bear some blame and act accordingly this war will continue indefinitely.
It is defeatist to say you cannot stop it and moral cowardice to refuse to try.
Eventually a solution will have to be found and unstable areas of the ME will have to be supported so this cycle of violence and the refugee crisis which goes with it can be stopped.

 

So you too are hoping for an accord with the islamic's then ??

Good luck with that.

 

Yes I'm hoping for an accord but it will take a lot of hard work and many concessions, luck may also play a part but I'm not going to rely on it.

 

You are what is called a dreamer.

Of all the future casualties (deaths) from Islamic terror I hope it mostly includes folks like yourself.

That would then be called poetic justice.

 

I am just so very thankful that we have a so-called president that knows more about ISIS than the generals do....

I do not worry about being killed by an Islamic wacko - the statistics show that if I am to meet a violent end, it is FAR more likely that it will be at the hands of a Red-neck wacko with very few branches in their family tree.

 

Just so. And since these Democrats are overwhelmingly pro-abortion, and one of their mantras is "If you're against abortion, are YOU going to raise these unwanted babies and pay for everything, huh, huh, huh?"

Giving them back their own nonsense, "Are you Democrats who want to bring in another million Muslims going to bring them into YOUR houses, and pay for their food and clothing and necessities, huh, huh, huh? Oh, and the Mexicans as well!"

 

That's what Macron tried to explain but everyone on here flipped out and said he was defending ISIS.

 

But then what? A short custodial sentence then released back into the community to carry on where they left off until they get lucky? That won't solve anything.

 

Ok well then I agree with him.

 

Take your partisan BS elsewhere, I'm not a Democrat, I'm not even an American. You have no idea of my opinion on abortion. Your type of strawman arguments are of no value to a debate forum.

I have seen the successful ending of the much more deadly IRA terrorism in the UK and the peaceful conclusion of wars all over the world through compromise and concession and am hopeful enough to believe the spread of Islamic terrorism can be arrested in the same way. Constant vilification and military intervention causing instability in the ME is certainly not working.

 

Yes, my immediate thought sprang to Guantanamo where, of the 700+ detainees, I believe only three or four have been tried and convicted of any terrorism-related offences. All the rest have been released, or are awaiting release. How many of those innocent men has the US turned into terrorists, bent on revenge?

 

What a load of crap America just last century was able to eliminate two evil ideologies in 4 short years and that was the Nazis and Imperial Japan
noticed we haven't had any trouble out of either one of them sense then? as a mater of fact we are very close allies with both
how was that accomplished? we beat the ever living crap out of both

 

No, they hate you because you got in their countries, uninvited and unwanted, and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children. That genie is never going back in the bottle.

 

Oh dear. You were fighting visible, tangible enemies who fought, for the most part, as conventional armies fight. You cannot address terrorism in the same way if you can neither identify the enemy, nor have any idea where he is or what he might do next. That's how guerillas fight; using scant resources in the most effective way. Stealth, instilling fear of attacks and secrecy are the terrorist's most powerful tools.

 

Yes, that was the 'scorched earth' tactic employed by the Nazis in Russia. Got them...nowhere. Failed in Vietnam too.

 

How many have been murdered by 'Christians', do you think?

 

Can we release them all in the UK?

 

The insanity, as you put it, was messing with those nations in the first place. The chickens have come home to roost, and it was US, the West, who were the catalyst for the terrorism we're suffering today. Western arrogance has had its day, and this is 'blowback'. Don't blame someone else for shooting yourself in the foot.
Iran is a perfect example; we ****ed-up their country starting in 1953, and we're now suffering the consequences of our actions through state-sponsored terrorism.

 

If they are innocent, why not? You release innocent people back into society every day in America. You tell me what the difference is?
But tell me; how would you feel toward your captors if you had been locked up for 10 years without charge, without access to legal representation or with no idea why you were being held in the first place? 'Gratitude' wouldn't be the first thought in my mind, frankly. You want to create terrorists? Guantanamo was a brilliant move in that direction. Using thought evidently isn't an important asset in US foreign policy.

 

Why is blowing a child's head of with a 'smart' bomb any different?
'A terrorist is someone who has a bomb, but not an air force'

 

I'm referring to the years directly after the war when we occupied both Germany and japan there weren't any problems with either during the occupation and the reason why is because we beat the crap out of them during the war the people knew better they were demoralized they was beaten into submission

 

So how are the occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq working out so far? Are you winning?
http://www.breitbart.com/national-s...ry-official-us-troops-iraq-absolutely-combat/
Post-war historians are in agreement that the bombing of civilian centres of population had little or no effect on civilian morale.

 

Even if that was true (it's not) those lives saved are the "anything" being solved.

A foiled terrorist plot is a good thing, even if it's followed by a successful one.

 

Not meaning to interrupt, but in my opinion, GHW & GW Bush's invasions of Iraq were a huge mistake.

GHW had a PTSD flashback to WW2 and confused Saddam with Adolf. Kuwait was no ally of the USA.

Saddam was a US ally and he checked with April Glasby before he invaded Kuwait. GHW had no reason to spasm-out over it.

And there was no yellowcake in Iraq either, so Dubya and Cheney had no valid reason to invade it either.

That's the story on Iraq, as I see it.