1,200 gun stores closed by Democrats!!

I disagree. Having established that illegal ballots will not influence the outcome of an election, it is enormously more important that everybody who has a right to vote, do so.

 

You have not established that illegal ballots will not influence the outcome of an election. It is not likely to, but that does not translate to it cannot happen.

But neither do you have evidence that voter ID will suppress the vote enough to affect a national election.

A vote is just as negated whether a person's vote is countered by an illegal vote or voter ID causes voter suppression. Most of the arrangements I have heard for voter stated that they would make every effort to insure that all legal voters could get an ID card.

 

No law abiding gun owner (the overwhelming vast majority) ever said or thought that. That is simply twisted, gun grabber mentality talking.

But does it surprise anyone that you like to say things like that which clearly vilify good people who are legally exercising their Constitutional right?

The problem is that certain people feel that public office is the perfect platform from which to deny people their lawful Constitutional rights, and to further empower oppressive government. (ie MI)

 

Voting online is racist. How many poor black people have access to a computer.

 

BasicHumanUnit2, welcome to the world of flamebait BS that is allowed to go on here based upon one's politics.

 

There is no evidence not having a voter ID has swayed a national election. So what is the problem?

 

Case in point...

 

Source?

 

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...es-in-recent-years-rights-group-idUSKCN1VV09J

 

Looks like you changed your mind.

A small handful of cases nationwide will not sway a national election. If we were anywhere near the thousands of votes that are suppressed in Florida alone every election cycle, then we might say that it's "possible". We are not.

I haven't mentioned voter ID. So I don't know what you're talking about. I'm talking about voter suppression. Which is an accumulation of tactics to keep Americans from exercising their right. Some voter ID requirements might be among those tactics. But, by the own admission of Republicans, voter suppression is a tactic they use to sway an election at a state level. Which might sway it at a national level. But this is a different issue. This is not just about swaying or not swaying. It's about not allowing Americans to exercise a right. If somebody votes illegally, they should be punished, but it's not suppressing anybody's rights. Not allowing them to vote is. You are confusing two very different things.

 

They all have the same result. Each one changes the vote tally by one vote.

 

Which makes it worse, because they hold this without thinking.

I only vilify those who defend this "right" to own guns but don't defend the right to vote.

I acknowledge that a Supreme Court decision granted you a right to own certain firearms. And defend it with the restrictions listed in this legislation. Just like I defend any other law. And even though the Supreme Court should not be legislating, the fact is that our Constitution does not preclude it. Therefore it is now "The Law of the Land"

I defend the right to vote, not only as a Constitutional right, but as a human right.

I question ("vilify"?.... Some of them, maybe) anybody who defends one, but not the other.

No idea what you're talking about... Looks like you're changing the subject for some reason. Which, if you read the OP, is voting rights.

 

And when democracy is allows to flourish, the republicans will never win another national election. That is why they vehemently oppose vote by mail. If voting were that easy for everyone, the republicans would be dead meat.

 

So you believe that any post you don't agree with is "flamebating"? I see little hope of you staying "unbanned" for long unless you learn what the term actually means. Instead, and hopefully, next time maybe you'll have something of substance to contribute.

 

Maybe I should have used the term trolling. I disagree with you and others of your ilk a lot but I don't consider most of your writings flamebait. However the use of terms as Trumpsters, Orange man etc are used as a way to denigrate individuals, but the MODS let it go on so it it what it is.

As far as being banned again what's that old saying '“I’ve been thrown out of better places than this!". Maybe the trick is to become a donor.

 

Some confusion here. The post referred to closing 1200 gun stores, the article referenced to 1200 polling places.

Regardless- closing 1200 is not necessarily the same as reducing the number, as others may have been opened. Then there is the question of there were too many in the first place and that lent itself to inaccurate results.

I've not researched anything here; just commenting on what would appear to be relevant.

 

If the only way you think you can make a point is through blatant falsehoods should probably tell you the argument you are trying to make is total nonsense. Bravo...

 

probably so

 

Wrong! The result is an American is denied the exercise of a right. That is unconstitutional. I know Trump supporters couldn't care less about protecting the Constitution. But the rest of us do.

 

I think that Republicans have convinced themselves that there is no way they can win an election without cheating. But they can go back to their roots. Become an alternative, like they were once. It will be a painful process. Because they'll first need to week out the corruption in their Party: the Mitch McConnell's.... the Lindsey Grahams (whom I once admired), the Jim Jordans and Devin Nunes. But I don't see how they can keep this up for long. Right now the +65 demographics is the one that was happy seeing them become the swamp that they are today. But they will have to go through the pains because I doubt other generations will look at them as kindly. Especially as people understand that it's this corruption what gave us Trump.

 

PORTLAND, Maine (AP) — The now-disbanded voting integrity commission launched by the Trump administration uncovered no evidence to support claims of widespread voter fraud, according to an analysis of administration documents released Friday.

In a letter to Vice President Mike Pence and Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who are both Republicans and led the commission, Maine Secretary of State Matthew Dunlap said the documents show there was a “pre-ordained outcome” and that drafts of a commission report included a section on evidence of voter fraud that was “glaringly empty.”
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How many times does this need to be repeated?

 

as many times as it takes

 

But the result is the same. I can vote, but my vote is nullified by fraudulent voters. Since the net result is the same, one is as bad as the other.
And you can keep your cheap insults to yourself.

 

There is no way to absolutely determine whether there has been voter fraud without a gross violation of constitutional rights Just be cause it has not been found does not mean it does not exist.

How many times does this need to be repeated?

 

So you're more than happy at disenfranchising voters because of your "belief". SMH

Amazing.