10 Lessons the US should learn from Iraq defeat

Go to a library, if there is one in your State, and ask for one of the square paper bricks they have there. That should help. If I have to teach the sub-normal I need paying, kid.

 

We won the objectives IE defeating the Baathist forces then the insurgents and instituting a stable government which has held free and fair elections as certified by the United Nations despite what the dumb (*)(*)(*)(*) from the OP has to say on the subject.

 

No it's because it's a god (*)(*)(*)(*) fact, and one that can not be denied save by morons who haven't picked up a paper in the last 3 years.

 

Amen, amen, amen, amen, amen. Your faith shall make it true (and a lot of brainwashing for the righties, of course).

 

If the public is so fickle, why did they not tire of the war quickly? Was was it supported for 8+ years if the public is so fickle?

So, at best, gay marriage pissed people off more than the war did. That is what you seem to be saying.

If you believe all people are robots programmed by the media, why are you in favor of democracy at all? Isnt that an argument against democracy?

The empirical evidence does not support that conclusion. We have been continuously interventionist for most of my lifetime at least. And not just in the Middle East...Taiwan is perhaps an even better example.

So why are we more aggressive than other nations if it is true of humanity in general? There appear to be cultural differences you are overlooking.

I am not even sure you know what you are saying. You keep changing your position. It is difficult to keep up with your equivocations.

Are you saying they are unaware of the possibility of being involved in a war they don't agree with?

So what? You could say the same for prison guards. No one is forcing them to choose these jobs. Lots and lots of poor people do not go in to the military.

Then they are not entitled to cry "unfair" when they are asked to do something they may not like or agree with. That was part of what they consented to when they joined up.

So save the "OMG you cant throw our people in harms way" arguments. These people are being paid to do a job, and that job involves risk. They accepted those risks willingly by joining.

I guess they probably should have chosen a different line of work then, huh?

Why would the public in general not prefer Paul if the public is really as non-interventionist as you say they are?

 

I'm an atheist but we know that the pedophile worshiping Islamic Imperialist baby killers will claim that the U.S. lost in Iraq despite the fact that it is they who got their asses trounced from first to last.

 

American soldiers won a military victory, but Obama snatched political defeat from the jaws of military victory. Political defeat is the same as just plain old defeat.

 

I would except that it isnt 1987 anymore. We have the internet now.

This appears to be a tacit admission that you have no evidence for your retarded claim. So much for European education. LOL

 

Long live the holy American asses that bray and bray and bray and bray their squalid and idiotic racist drivel. Never tell the holy buggers how to spell 'arse' either, or they might realise what they are talking out of!

Has it ever struck you how you expose your freudian repressions by this obsession with donkeys?

 

I disagree. Saddam is gone. A democracy is in his place. That is clearly better than having a Saddam ruled Iraq. It is not a defeat no matter what Obama does to screw it up.

 

They did tire of it quickly. After the election, Bush's popularity fell considerably. Not surprisingly, this coincided with a different portrayal of the war by the media as a whole.

Coverage was mostly positive up until around late 2005/early 2006.

At that moment, pretty much.

I'm in favor of democracy because it seems to work better for us than most other systems. If our education level/literacy rate was that of Afghanistan, I'd be more in favor of a dictatorship.

The type of government best suited for the populace is directly tied to the intelligence and education of the public. Unfortunately, however, even education doesn't eliminate the tendency for people to be sheep-like -- although it can reduce it.

Would you equate interventionism with paranoia?

Sure, we're aggressive compared to the average EU citizen. The amount that we intervene probably has less to do with culture than our power though.

Great Britain used to be a very aggressive nation in terms of interventionism back when it had a massive empire and a relatively more powerful military.

Because America still has the most powerful military in the world, it's not surprising that we intervene more just simply because we can.

However, as our relative power in the world diminishes, you'll see this decrease over time.

I already answered this. No, I don't believe they are unaware.

You keep arguing against things I haven't said.

Well yeah... Enlisting does ultimately put your fate in the hands of the government.

I think we're veering away from the core of my argument though.

What I've been saying is that we're not innately an aggressive or paranoid people.

Part of why Paul is limited in his appeal is his extreme positions. A lot of people want smaller government, but not as small as he wants it. A lot of people think the War on Drugs is bull(*)(*)(*)(*), but they don't want to legalize everything overnight. A lot of people want us to intervene less, but they don't necessarily want us to completely withdraw from the world.

 

The lesson to be learned from the last eleven years is that America can't fight wars overseas effectively because of political division here at home. It's best not to try.

 

America always win for rednecks.
They won vietnam.

 

To describe the Iraqi government as a stable government is to describe a brothel as a recreation center. Didn't the Shia Iraqis put out an arrest warrant for the top Suni politician?

 

Opinions are like (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s everyone has one. Political in-fighting happens in every Democratic nation.

You fail to provide as source for your assertion and even if that is correct a politician getting arrested does not mean a government is unstable if that politician actually broke the law and the law isn't, say, speaking out against the majority and the like.

 

And in that library the book you are asserting that resides there must sit in the fiction section.

 

Only a Euro trash piece of (*)(*)(*)(*) would be stupid enough to confuse the term race with the term religion, not surprising in the least though.

 

The United States used baby hands with Iraq, If we really wanted to defeat Iraq it could have easily been done a long time ago. The war we lost is a war on terrorism and hate against America we tried to force them to love us and that did not work so yes we did lose. Occupation over a country that is so far away and using baby hands too do it will never work. People don't understand anything but deadly force.

 

I can see you conveniently forgot the parts about your ignorance about Germany’s declaration of war and your nonsense about me claiming Japan wouldn’t attack us unless we attacked them first…


Let me know if you are ready to engage in a meaningful debate. If not don't bother replying.

 

Thats right. the prime minister Nuri al-Maliki ordered the arrest of deputy prime minister Tareq al-Hashemi a few our after our last troops left the country.

 

There are ignorant poeple everywhere. Go to the local mall and ask 10 random people if they can explain what 'Arab' and 'Muslim' means. You will run away screaming.

 

There is only one human race, as you know. Racists are ill-mannered scumbags who - having no reason to feel superior to anything above a slug - invent 'race' to give themselves a fake superiority. As everyone knows, these cruds know nothing about religion (or anything else really) but use it to hide their racist idiocy under a different label.

 

Are you a racist?

 

Anybody yet found out why they shot this man in his head when he was in mid air , falling to his death ?
This is the man they hunted for 24 hours previously , vowing they would capture him alive and did not use live ammo .
What changed ?
Did they get a copy of his CV ?

 

Such happening is nothing when compared with the upcoming rocket launch by North Korea.

Kurt Campbell, the assistant secretary of state for East Asian and Pacific affairs, has warned North Korea's upcoming rocket launch would be aimed south for the first time and impact in an area "roughly between Australia, Indonesia and the Philippines".

If the North Korean rocket could travel far enough to reach the area, the impact would not only be felt in Asia but also around the world. The whole world will not only wonder but shudder. The US, Japan, Australia, Russia and even China will be shivering.