100,000 DEATHS

Back when Fauci and the WHO were telling him nothing to worry about.

 

Most viruses do.

 

This virus is it’s own worst enemy. It’s extremely contagious but to the general public not very lethal so herd immunity will occur very fast.

 

You want to ignore lives saved by good policy and dwell on the unfortunate that died in a pandemic.

 

Sooooooo, you have evidence in relation to the length of time any immunity lasts? Since it is a Coronavirus, one of the family that include the common cold, then the fear is that our immune system will have the same reaction as to the common cold ie not all that great and the immunity may last only a few months

 

Thats quite a stretch for such a weak argument.

 

It isn’t over yet

To get herd immunity (even if that is possible) everyone will have to get it. At the moment America has owner 1.7 million confirmed cases

You do the math

 

math can't be done because 100% of the population hasn't been nor can be tested for antibodies

Testing asymptomatic people for corona is a waste of time because a negative could be a positive the next day. It's time to focus on who has the antibodies and you can't test 350,000,000 men/women/children

the spike never happened

hospitals were not overwhelmed
PPE is available
respirators are available
hospitals have capacity

 

Sweden expects herd immunity this month

 

No not everyone. Estimates are 50 to 70 percent will achieve herd immunity and the vast majority who have had Covid have never been confirmed through testing

 

No, they do not.

Stockholm Won't Reach Herd Immunity In May, Sweden's Chief Epidemiologist Says

 

If that's the message he heard from Dr. Fauci and others at the WHO, then he was not ****ing listening.

 

fyi- if you don't want truth, don't read the thread

http://politicalforum.com/index.php...ovid-19-icu-sits-empty-for-first-time.573112/

 

you definitely have not proved me wrong

 

Vietnam, over 1-4 million deaths depending on your source.
Korean war, 1.5 million deaths.

Oh wait...you and WAPO are just cherry picking numbers to suit a partisan political agenda of blaming Trump for a virus in which every single expert out there states could not be stopped, only mitigated.

 

so now will the right finally admit it was the "Trump Shutdown"?

now that Trump is claiming the deaths would be in the millions if not for the Trump shutdown?

stop blaming the Governors for following the Trump guidelines during a national emergency

 

That's 100,000 deaths in the first 90 days of the pandemic,the first death was recorded on February 29,2020. Sadly the eventual number will be well North of 100,000.

 

I am always glad to see new data, but you really made some screwed up assumptions in your pursuit of the "truth."

 

Trump is bad.

That subjective statement is the only thing you have posted. As it is 100% subjective I'm not going to be able to prove it is untrue. Might as well post Coke is better than Pepsi and tell me to prove you are wrong.

 

I feel pretty confident that they were talking about American deaths in those wars - not total deaths from all sides.

 

We have also lost 650,000 Americans to death from all causes in those same 90 days.

https://www.indexmundi.com/blog/index.php/2018/03/05/how-many-people-die-a-day-in-the-us/

We should just shut down and shelter in place for eternity I guess!

I'm not sure how some of you ever left your house before this hit. The fear level some have is unbelievable.

 

I notice you’d rather not make your left wing source public. CNN? NY Times? lol

 

It was Trump who called for it under pressure from the left and the media. He should not have.

He then tried to reopen at Easter, yet again the left and media lost their tiny little minds. He caved in again and should not have.

But he eventually gained his footing and stopped caving in, the left and media cried yet again which did not work this time as he stood his ground. That is still going on as you well know.

He also wisely and correctly left much of this at the state level where it belongs. Governors own their actions, at least they should. You can not take blame away from governors for their actions. Shameful that you would not think they should be as elected leaders of their states.

Trump's performance was not perfect by any measure, but was a strong one overall. He has been tested as no other POTUS has in well over 50 years. I shudder to think has HRC been elected how she would have reacted....martial law is my bet.

Was it his shutdown? Yes in many ways, no in others.

All the left ended up politically out of this was:

A more savy politician in Trump. He is much more politically polished than he was before this.
A death toll under 10% of what "Could have been!!" under his leadership.
An election in Nov that will occur as the country is full of optimism as we come out of this mess and go into the holidays.
A economy that is ready to burst back into growth, not as much as before but growth none the less.
And Joe "Blundering" Biden as their guy.

Those sound like pretty crappy odds for the left to have a happy Nov!

 

nope, I said Trump has no empathy, most narcissists don't

 

New York and NJ are demonstrations of curbing the spread of COVID through the actions of the people - the only weapon we have against this disease.

If one extracts the case counts for the other 48 states, one sees that those 48 states are continuing to grow at a pace that is really not even slowed from previous months.

Suggesting that those 48 states have done something is NOT supported by data. Suggesting that we can follow the plan created by the CDC and posted on the WhiteHouse site is also FALSE - we don't even have the conditions for entering Phase 1 - the primary deficit being that our ability to test for COVID is still just plain pathetic. Beyond that, we have no working travel policy and have ensured that workers must work even at places solidly proven to be COVID spreaders such as (but not limited to) meat packing plants.

Our government has suspended OSHA and has totally stopped even a pretense of making decisions that are informed by medical science. What we're getting is pure politics. And, it sells, as we WANT to hear that it's all over - obviously.

We're now even hearing that our federal government is no longer going to work the various testing problems, which CDC sees as absolutely critical as the basis for all plans related to opening our economy. Trump says states will have to do that. But, the states CAN'T DO THAT, obviously.


Trump is in full surrender mode. And, he's actually issued an executive order against social media restricting any corrections of his LIES.