100% of votes for Obama in a hundred precincts

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  1. bringiton

    bringiton Well-Known Member

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    Link to that effect?
     
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    I have used it correctly.
     
  3. JonK22

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    Got it you don understand how precents work VS entire countries when looking at voting.

    Perhaps if the GOP ever had ANYTHING that benefitted the avg person, the black population might vote for them?
     
  4. bringiton

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    No you have not, as proved by the fact that you cannot cite a dictionary definition that supports your usage.
     
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    zalekbloom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Exactly! Democrats cheat! When Trump ordered recount in Maricopa County he found Democtats cheated by stealing few hundred votes from Biden and giving it to Trump! What a losers!

    https://www.nydailynews.com/news/na...0210924-2eqtqkibfrcv7dnfyntv7nx24a-story.html
     
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    I don't think there is a link with that specific statement. But Champkin was the editor of Significance when it published unconvincing to Gelman other than fraud explanations of statistical anomalies in Russian elections. And he ceased to be the editor afterward. Of course sequential relation does not mean casual but ...

    Gelman criticized not just Significance articles on Russian elections. In fact he did not offer any substantial objections to those articles. Instead he criticized an entirely different article and claimed that "official organ of an academic society has low standards for publication."

    So the blog entry was obviously directed against the editor. Note also that criticized by Gelman articles (linked in his blog) were memory-holed.
     
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    Why all the pre-emptive whining about cheating when the elections are months away. GOP is almost certainly going to win, so how about man up a little and stop whining about something that MIGHT happen in the future.
     
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    That would not be proof.
     
  9. bringiton

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    So you have no evidence for your claim. Thought not.
    As I said.

    So you now admit your claim was false. OK.
     
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    It not only would be, but actually is proof.
     
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    It wouldn't be, sorry to disavow you of your faith.
     
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    I presented circumstantial evidence.
    Where did you say anything? In his blog entry Gelman gave a link to a good in his opinion article on fraud in Russian elections. The link is to an arXiv version of the article but it was later published by PNAS. So go and comment on PubPeer or ResarchGate. Because till the PNAS article is not retracted one is justified in applying its method to US elections and claiming systematic fraud.
    https://www.researchgate.net/public...tistical_detection_of_election_irregularities

    Where I admit? What claim?
     
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    Same exact post was made here:
    http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...votes-obama-hundred-precincts-post635798.html

    The first reply to this bogus claim, which was posted by user "Double Helix," states:

    The referenced source has no credibility at all, and neither does the notion that all of these precincts in all these states and D.C. went 99-100% for Obama. The claims have been shot down long ago by all major news sources and the related precincts, just like with THE BIG LIE of 2020.

    These notions are nothing but a large, horrible pile of odoriferous porcine feces!
     
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    The post on thescienceforum was not exact as the one here. That one linked to osf and this links to ResearchGate. The difference is that at ResearchGate you can post comments. So please do it so no one will be mislead. The data has a DOI after all. So post a comment on Research Gate or on PubPeer.
     
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    Nah. I'll just link this:

    https://www.politifact.com/factchec...et-philly-rigged-2012-presidential-election-/

    And point out that this is an old lie that has been told many times in the past, just in relation to other elections, but strangely always about 99 or 100 percent of votes allegedly going to the Democratic candidate and never the Republican one. That's kind of a clue that it is a lie aimed at radicalizing people on the right -- the people with all the guns.
     
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    Heh, yes how strange!
     
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    Especially when it's only ever right-wingers who are caught cheating. Meanwhile we know thanks to Mueller and other investigators that the Russians have been inventing and spreading lies meant to rile up America's right wing especially. If you're going to target people in a bid to turn them into violent insurrectionists, it might as well be the people with relatively little education and heaps of guns.
     
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    Yes blame the Russians! LOL!
     
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    Exclusive: Russian operation masqueraded as right-wing news site to target U.S. voters

    The Russian group accused of meddling in the 2016 U.S. election has posed as an independent news outlet to target right-wing social media users ahead of this year’s vote, two people familiar with an FBI probe into the activity told Reuters.

    The latest operation centred around a pseudo media organisation called the Newsroom for American and European Based Citizens (NAEBC), which was run by people associated with the St. Petersburg-based Internet Research Agency, the sources said.

    U.S. prosecutors say the agency played a key role in Russian efforts to sway the 2016 election in favour of President Donald Trump, and Facebook and Twitter exposed a fake left-wing media outlet in September which they said was run by people connected to the organisation.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/usa...te-to-target-u-s-voters-sources-idUSKBN26M5OP


    Maria Butina developed a reputation in Russia for her love of guns - but it was her involvement with the National Rifle Association (NRA) that led to her getting in trouble with US authorities.

    At the end of 2018 she pleaded guilty to being directed by a Russian government official to "establish unofficial lines of communication with Americans having power and influence over American politics".
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44885633

    Facebook removes Russian-based network that spread vaccine misinformation.
    https://www.reuters.com/technology/...geted-influencers-peddle-anti-vax-2021-08-10/

    Social media platforms on the defensive as Russian-based disinformation about Ukraine spreads
    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/...tforms-russia-ukraine-disinformation-00011559
     
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    Your first comment said that the information in the OP is wrong. Now you say it is true but does not signal voter fraud. Basic decency requires you to admit that your first comment was a lie.

    Now let us turn to the interesting article you linked to. It is interesting to me because it gives the average number of registered republicans in those 59 Philadelphia precincts. It is 17. The total is thus 17 * 59 = 1003. The attendance in 2012 elections was 53.8%. The probability that none of 1003 Republicans voted is 0.468 ^ 1003 = 2 ^ (-331). Or, in other words, it is zero. Any objections?
     
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    Lies of yesteryear fail miserably as diversions from the Cry Baby Loser's current legal jeopardy in multiple venues.

    Obama haters failed to contrive the minimum of credible evidence needed for Republicans to file legal challenges concerning their fake claims that festered only in crackpot propaganda outlets.
     
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  23. Lil Mike

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    Imagine, we've been geostrategic foes with the Soviet Union and no Russia for a century, and this is the first time they've ever interfered in out elections? Amazing?

    How many votes did they move?
     
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    First time I can remember that a major party candidate asked for and received their help


    Trump asked Russia to find Clinton’s emails. On or around the same day, Russians targeted her accounts
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politi...d-the-same-day-russians-targeted-her-accounts


    There was Trump-Russia collusion — and Trump pardoned the colluder
    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-h...ia-collusion-and-trump-pardoned-the-colluder/

    G.O.P.-Led Senate Panel Details Ties Between 2016 Trump Campaign and Russia

    It provided a bipartisan Senate imprimatur for an extraordinary set of facts: The Russian government disrupted an American election to help Mr. Trump become president, Russian intelligence services viewed members of the Trump campaign as easily manipulated, and some of Mr. Trump’s advisers were eager for the help from an American adversary.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/senate-intelligence-russian-interference-report.html


    As it turns out, there really was collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia


    “The long-awaited report from the Senate Intelligence Committee contains dozens of new findings that appear to show more direct links between Trump associates and Russian intelligence, and pierces the president’s long-standing attempts to dismiss the Kremlin’s intervention on his behalf as a hoax.” These include a determination “that a longtime partner of Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort was, in fact, a Russian intelligence officer.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/us/politics/senate-intelligence-russian-interference-report.html
     
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  25. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    LOL, conspiracy theorist!

    Sorry, I could have bought that you believed this in 2017, or maybe 2018, but anyone who still believes in Russia Collusion in 2022 is simply a conspiracy theorist. Thanks for letting me know how seriously to take your posts from now on!
     

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