$15M per month for peace

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  1. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Do you think Hamas should demand $30 Mln /mo? They do need to restore lotsa tunnels, whats with Israel blowing them up faster, than Hamas can build new ones... :nana:
     
  2. Dutch

    Dutch Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And cement! And tyres! Its a crime!!!
     
  3. Pisa

    Pisa Well-Known Member

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    This is too funny.

    https://www.lawfareblog.com/fact-an...reme-courts-jurisdiction-over-west-bank-cases

    elyon1.court.gov.il/Files_ENG/05/140/084/n25/05084140.n25.pdf

    Renouncing fantasies about evil Israel doing terrible things to defenseless Palestinians is damn near impossible for some people. I'm quite sure you'll keep making the same baseless claims in other posts.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They are exploited. They are mere pawns for Jew haters.
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Land for peace worked so well, why not try it!!!
     
  6. notme

    notme Well-Known Member

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    Their civilian parents are not to blame that their children are not getting clothes, blankets and enough food.
    The Jews are responsible for that. They claim it's a necessity for the security of their country. There is of course no way child not having clothes, blankets and food have any impact on the security for Jews.

    Israel is the most condemned nation on the planet, by far. They apply collective punishment to helpless children, they ethnic cleanse civilians and put their little children right on the frontline of fresh ethnically cleansed land as human shield. As good as all the Jews join in on this, by being part of the IDF at one point. This also is supported by the fast majority of the Israeli Jews... since the government does it in their name. Jews world wide lobby the west fanatically to continue with this. There hardly is any opposition to these war crimes from their own ethnicity. That is very unlike the Muslim crowed. They are on the forefront of killing ISIS... killing them in hand to hand combat.
     
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    notme Well-Known Member

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    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20170830-gaza-exports-shipment-of-ready-made-clothes-to-israel/
    You were saying?[/QUOTE]
    https://www.nrc.no/globalassets/pdf/briefing-notes/mb-gaza-israel-blockade-civilians-270818-en.pdf

    The ban on clothes and blankets is this year. Your article is last year.
    The Jews also banned the import of cooking gas, fuel and emergence fuel supply for the UN.
    And here you are saying they can run a business like that.
     
  8. Poohbear

    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, the Gazan kids ARE "helpless."
    Their schools are also Hamaz munition dumps, rocket storage and sniper points.
    They are told to advance in front of Hamas gunmen when confronting the Israelis.
    They are told their govt won't do a deal with Israel, even if it means joint ventures,
    a rail line, airport, sea port and the right to be as free as Israeli Arabs.
    And they won't get to vote Hamas out of power.

    Same as West Bank. Recall Abbas' "four year term", that was 14 years ago. Now
    there's a damning report on how Fatah treats its own people.
     
  9. Pisa

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    The Jews banned? Seriously?

    https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east...s-compound-electricity-woes-in-gaza-1.5445054

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/2...ion-starts-with-lifting-pa-sanctions-on-gaza/

    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news...a-an-attempt-to-divide-palestinians-1.6192208

    https://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-...-rejects-Israeli-US-ideas-to-help-Gaza-560921

    The recent ban - if your claim is correct - might also have something to do with those nice Gaza people throwing incendiary bombs and missiles at our fields and towns. All around Gaza fields are burning.

    I'm reminded of the biblical story about Solomon's justice - you know, the two women pretending each to be the mother of the baby, until the lying one was flushed out when she agreed to cut the baby in half. The lying one is more than eager to burn the house he claims to own and cherish.

    Anyway, they are more than welcome to get stuff through Egypt. Why would they expect help and hugs from Israelis, the people they're bent on destroying? Aren't Egyptians their brothers?
     
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    I dunno what this has to do to deprive these children from getting enough food and clothing, schooling and medical care.
    You're just distracting and ranting about Hamas.
     
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    notme Well-Known Member

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    I didn't write that.


    That is from 2017, while my source of the banned goods that the Jews are doing is from 2018.

    They are throwing them at their own fields that they got ethnic cleansed from.
     
  12. Fred C Dobbs

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    Bowers appears to have internet access from his Pittsburgh prison cell.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They don't teach history in Germany? "Israeli scum"?? You must have been proud member of the Hitler Youth Movement.

    Check it out.

    "Here is a bit of recent, though apparently forgotten, history: In 2003, the then-prime minister of Israel, Ariel Sharon, announced that Israel would unilaterally withdraw about 8,500 settlers from its 21 settlements in the Gaza Strip, and pull out its army as well. The territory would be handed over, in its entirety, to the Palestinian Authority.

    In the summer of 2005, he executed the plan, ordering the Israeli army to expel the settlers. It would have been better, for many reasons, for Sharon to have negotiated this handover directly with his adversaries. But the fact remains that Israel gave the Palestinians of Gaza what they claimed they wanted: their territory, which they said would become part of their independent state".

    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...d-israel-give-up-territory-after-gaza/244995/
     
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    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Because they are connected in rather simple ways.
    Hamas has turned these children's lives into a war zone.
    But from the photos and video I see - the kids still seem
    to be well dressed.

    ps claiming that I am "ranting" about Hamas is a subtle way
    of saying I am not correct. I am factually correct - with a high
    degree of Precision.
     
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  15. Mandelus

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    Do you have this organ in the head used, before you wrote your answer?

    Point #1
    My ancestors -Germans - fought against Hitler and sat in same concentration camps as the Jews ... and 4 of them dies there too!
    Personally, I am someone who hates all Nazi and racist ... and who also advocates violence against this scum because another language does this righty scum not understand. For that reason, I have as German every right to criticize Israel, even with harsh words!

    Point #2
    I specifically wrote Israelis and NOT Jews because I do not care what religious beliefs people have ... I'm concerned about the deeds!
    So where is "Jew-hatred" in my post? Nowhere!

    Point 3
    I'm not talking about the Gaza Strip, I'm talking about the West Bank, which is clearly NOT Israeli territory ... and there's nothing to deny. And I'm talking about those Israeli terrorists who in the West Bank "overnight" simply occupy the private property of Palestinian farmers and establish an illegal settlement there, mostly harassing and threatening the "new neighbors" and where no Palestinian has any chance of getting legal to fight against it!

    And you call this behavior of Israel good?
     
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    You post is really funny and shows that you really believe the BS which is officiall stated and never happening!

    Is the West Bank Israeli territory? No!
    Has any Palestinian any real chance to kick off the illegal settlers from his land by law and legal process? No!

    Any questions?
     
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    Well ... they can then at least buy some better missiles and if they then fire them targeted at the illegal Israeli settlements in the West Bank, then holiday and party time! Then one scum hits the right other scum!
     
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    A pox on all Jewish settlers. Most Israelis would agree on this point.
    The problem is defining what is a "settler" because the Arabs think
    ALL Jews in Israel are settlers - not ancestral peoples.
    When you call everyone a settler then it makes it easy for the real
    settlers to get away with seizing land.
     
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    Of course you have on "Arab side" also still extremists who want to kick the Israelis back into the sea and so on ... but this scum is not the topic. No ... the problem are only those "settlers" who occupy land owned by a Palestinian illegal way in the West Bank.

    These Palestinians in the West Bank live in an area occupied by Israel and not on Israeli territory. Therefore, the Palestinians are only theoretically subject to Israeli law, but never in practice!
    Does any affected Palestinian peasant who suddenly has such a settlement on his land in the morning have any real chance to drive the scum out of his country by lawsuit ... and how likely is it that the Israeli military and the police use the Guys then chased away with such a court order again?

    That's the problem ... because what's left for the Palestinian, especially as Israeli police and Israeli soldiers protect the illegal settlers?
    That the guy then no friend of Israel and is receptive to the HAMAS, do not be surprised! Or?
     
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    Right. do that, and more coffins they'll need to buy.
     
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    You say that, but it's not founded on any argument. Hence it's not true.
    And the Jews use these children in their war of ethnic cleansing Arabs.
    There is no reason for them to make them go to bed being hungry without blankets and clothes,
    other than make Arabs comply with them being ethnic cleansed.

    That's not true. You're just distracting
     
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    Without those tunnels, there would not be enough food to feed the children at schools or medicine and equipment to be used in hospitals so making it pointless having 2 more hospitals or 20 more schools. Those tunnels are essential to keep the existing schools and hospitals running
     
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    I rest my case.

    The rest of your post is just a pathetic attempt to find a way around the truth. Not worth replying.
     
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    Questions? But of course.

    Why are you so sure you know what's happening in Israel better than an Israeli?

    Why are you so sure all our newspapers and all our politicians and all our judges and all our TV stations are constantly lying to us simple citizens 24/7? A couple, maybe, but all of them unanimously in unison? Wouldn't that be a bit too weird?

    Do you read Israeli newspapers? Are you familiar with the Israeli society?

    List of the settlements built on private Palestinian land? Names, locations, all the relevant details.

    I gave you links. Why haven't you read the information in those links? The second link leads to a decision of the Israeli High Court of Justice. It clearly shows how Palestinians lie to and deceive the international community, tricking the world into believing they're oppressed victims with no chance of getting justice from Israel.
     

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