2016 Final Presidential Debate

In which alternate universe?

Even Trump knows that he is done and has already launched Trump TV.

 

No kidding.

And totally LMAO at anyone who still thinks Trump has a prayer.

 

Yeah - thats why Fox News is only pro-Trump on Hannity. The point is to hurt Trump. Are you saying that the rest of Fox News is credible is it? Fox News is supposedly a right leaning channel and a counter to not only MSNBC but all of the rest of US corporate media that leans left. The audience of Fox News is conservative so to have Fox pro-Clinton is another example of how the US political system is rigged. And Sean Hannity is a talk show host on a news entertainment program and does not pretend to be a serious journalist anyway so yeah the joke is on you if you take his show as being unbiased or think that anyone else is supposed to.

And Chris Wallace is an establishment retard. He moderated the debate in the same biased way that Anderson Cooper did. And you dont have any respected journalists. Chris Wallace. Oh yeah - he is credible... Nobody believes these corporate (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)s. Are you going to tell me that Jim Lehrer is a respected journalist? He was your supposedly one and only unbiased go-to guy wasnt he? These people are worthless and no US news media has any credibility.

 

Did Trump just launch Trump TV?
http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/10/donald-trump-appears-to-test-out-tv-venture-230023

 

Yes.

With a who's who of ARNJ whack jobs.

 

Did you expect anything else? I even heard that wicked witch Jan Brewer was in attendance...

Yep...
http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/former-arizona-governor-jan-brewer-on-trump/

 

She was smiling because Orange Man was destroying himself, every time he opened his big mouth. Talking a lot while saying nothing. Just like always (I know more than the generals, etc., Lol).

Trump also needs to pull up his Depends and stop acting like a whiny little boy.

 

And the Comical King of the ARNJ delusional conspiracy crowd: Boris Epshteyn.

Boris Epshteyn? Are they serious?

 

If they ran a real orangutan the Republicans would have a far better candidate than they did in 2012 or 2016 (including all of their primary candidates).


One comment about Trump’s endless whining: He all too often comes off sounding like a snivelling little weakling. He needs to pull up his Depends and try to act like a man -- for a change.

 

What was up with Trump's wimpish voice ?

Still sniffing but not as much - was he on a new drug that slightly reduced his sniffing but his voice was so pathetic?

 

All due respect but your defense of Trump is "Everyone is against him". MAYBE.....just maybe....its HIM !!!! The US political system isn't rigged, your just in the minority. Why is that so hard to accept ? The Party of "self responsibility" is now literally blaming everyone and everything but themsleves. Its been an amazing thing to watch.

The media doesn't put words in Trumps mouth, they just report the words he says. The media has given trump more free air time than any other candidate in american political history. And they did that because they all understand that he is media gold. Everyone wants to watch the car crash, and Trump is that car crash every time he opens his mouth. He digs his own holes, and then blames everyone else when he is in the hole.

Seriously, when the right starts blaming Fox News for being biased to Hillary Clinton, the right has jumped the shark. But by all means, please keep doing this because your handing the legislative future of the country to the left for many years to come.

 

Those of us at the Chicago Tribune last night. Trump won the first 55 mins. Hillary won the last 35.

The Social issue Trending is about Trump not answering if he will accept the results of the Election. Which Hillary found horrifying. Although Wallace didn't jack her over Gore pulling the same thing.

Naturally Hillary and the left are worried about a revolution taking place. As they do know where they stand if that happens. Not much of a future for them should it jump off.

Then the other issue was over Hillary wearing white.

 

But Gore did accept it. Due to the very close result, it was important that the count was correct. And it was necessary to refer that dispute to the legal system.

But the system worked as intended, a winner was declared and Gore accepted that result.

What Trump is doing now is completely different. He is setting the country up for violence when he loses. His narcissistic personality is incapable of conceiving that he could lose in a fair and square fight. In his mind, he could only lose if he is cheated out of it. He has a lot of cult-like supporters who will believe him when he says that.

This will - in the minds of those mindless followers - delegitimize the result, which could lead to violence if they truly do not accept it.

What he said last night is completely irresponsible. Everyone who loves the country should distance themselves completely from his remarks. He has proved, once again, that he puts his own interests and ego ahead of the country. He doesn't know what it means to be American.

 

Well said and true!



""""All due respect but your defense of Trump is "Everyone is against him". MAYBE.....just maybe....its HIM !!!! that ... ........The Party of "self responsibility" is now literally blaming everyone and everything but themselves""""""

 

""""Then the other issue was over Hillary wearing white"""

Ya, the Really Important thing for Repubs....

 

Duh.....Social issue, Faceplate aka FaceBook. So that's your kind of people thinking the stupid (*)(*)(*)(*).

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He waited until afterwards and no call to Bush until then. Oh and no handshake after the last debate.

 

Well, nothing much has changed. Trump continues to crash and burn, all the while blaming everyone but himself for the position he's in. Floating a few conspiracy theories will keep him raking in the money from the ignorant masses for some time after this election. You have to give it to his marketing team.

Hillary is smart to just sit back and let him destroy himself.

 

Why just last week This Horrible Woman, Hillary claimed the 2000 election was stolen...

http://hotair.com/archives/2016/10/20/last-week-hillary-agreed-gore-won-2000-election/

 

He waited until after the recount and the legal proceedings had - in accordance with the systems in place - determined which one of them was the winner. If the recount had gone the other way, Bush would have made the call to Gore, conceding defeat.

In this election we have the prospect of the loser (Trump) NOT EVER conceding defeat. That is unprecedented and - frankly - un-American.

 

Very good points.

Here is my read on the debate:

To me, this was the clearest win for Clinton of the three debates.

She painted him as the character he is, using his own words and quotes only.

Trump, on the other hand, reinforced the "crooked Hillary" image to his base, mainly quoting right wing talking points. Not sure how well that will resonate with people who are not living in the right wing bubble.

Clinton also had some messups. First, the "not 1 penny added to the debt" line will come to haunt her. That's clearly a promise she can't keep. She also overstated the debt estimated to be added by Trump's tax proposal as $20 trillion, while the estimates I have seen were $7 trillion over 10 years. She probably over-exaggerated other points as well.

Trump did his usual hyperbolic drama rants. According to him, there were probably at least three worst deals ever, in the history of all mankind. Now which one is the worst? The Iran deal, TPP or NAFTA? They can't all be the worst ... ever. Also, his use of the word "disgraceful" is getting old. It became so bad that I could predict to my wife seconds ahead: he is going to say "disgraceful" any second now. And sure enough he did.

Overall, Clinton seemed poised and measured, prepared and thoughtful. Trump interrupted a lot with "wrong" comments and didn't do himself any favors with facial expressions. it reinforces the perception that he can't take criticism. However, he seems more poised than in previous debates. Maybe he is learning.

Finally, I don't know why few people have picked up on this Trump tidbit:

"And wait until you see what happens in the coming years. Lots of luck, Hillary. Thanks a lot for doing a great job."

Immediately I thought that he already conceded the election. Was it just a Freudian slip?

I forgot to add: The moderator did a good job.

 

Yes, I noticed that too. He knows the writing is on the wall. His ego is putting up a fight, but he knows that in less than three weeks he will be the biggest loser in the country.

 

He still could have shook hands and said good luck, Right? The fact that he didn't......shows the perspective for what it is.

Yes not keeping with the traditional political rhetoric, aka Bull(*)(*)(*)(*). Is not the norm. But none can say it is Un-American. Moreover he already got caught up with the BS over the pledge with the Repubs in the Primary.

So he learned from the first time.....and now wont be caught up in Political platitudes and Bull(*)(*)(*)(*) over the matter.

 

Trump is a saboteur that is trying to help get Clinton elected. DerrRRrr. It is obvious as hell. That is how utterly rigged your political system is. But just because Trump is an obvious saboteur doesnt mean that supporting him over Clinton is still choosing the lesser of two evils.

And whatever - the best thing is to call Fox out as being every bit in on the fix as the rest of the corporate media - and I want Democrats to gain control because nobody should ever vote for establishment Republicans. It doesnt matter if Republicans or Democrats are in power because they are both the same. The best way to kill the Republican Party is like this. And liberals having power is the best and surest way to ensure unrest and possibly rebellion. Liberals arent going to overthrow government now are they? They are a bunch of you know whats. For people that hate USA things are going swimmingly. Better than we could have dreamed. Imagine China and Russia watching this circus. I hate Republicans - I always have.

 

Peaceful transition of power is not bu11sh1t. It is one of the principles of democracy at which America excels. Not just for itself, but as an example to the rest of the world.

This is not theoretical or right or left. Peaceful transition of power is part of the bedrock of American democracy. It matters. It is important.

It is based on confidence in the voting procedures. Although those procedures are not perfect, there is no evidence whatsoever of widespread, systematic or effective (in the sense of changing the outcome) abuse.

So yes - Donald Trump's efforts to question the legitimacy of the outcome if he loses (note that he has structured his assertions so that the outcome would only be questionable if he loses - not if he wins) strike at the very foundation of the democracy. It is un-American.