2016 Trump Tower Meeting Looks Increasingly Like a Setup by Russian and Clinton Operatives

Don jr is probably going to be arrested for lying to the FBI.

 

[QU figures associated with Western intelligence services and the Clinton campaign approached the Trump team promising damaging information on Clinton.OTE="Grokmaster, post: 1069485055, member: 6235"]Exactly what many of us have been pointing out ever since we learned of the remarkable "coincidences" surrounding Veselnitskaya, and her presence here at that time, starting with Loretta Lynch allowing the Kremlin-linked , Russian operative into the country, AGAINST THE WISHES OF THE NSA, citing "special circumstances".

It is becoming increasingly clear that those "special circumstances" were to SET UP the meeting to try to falsely link then-candidate Trump to Russia :



2016 Trump Tower Meeting Looks Increasingly Like a Setup by Russian and Clinton Operatives
Evidence suggests the infamous Trump Tower meeting with Russians was a giant set up to disparage the Trump campaign


The June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between high-ranking members of the Republican presidential campaign staff and a Russian lawyer with Kremlin ties remains the cornerstone of claims that Donald Trump colluded with Russia to steal the election.

A growing body of evidence, however, indicates that the meeting may have been a setup — part of a broad effort to tarnish the Trump campaign involving Hillary Clinton operatives employed by Kremlin-linked figures and Department of Justice officials. This view, that the real collusion may have taken place among those who arranged the meeting rather than the Trump officials who agreed to attend it, is supported by two disparate lines of evidence pulled together for the first time here: newly released records and a pattern of efforts to connect the Trump campaign to Russia.

The first line of evidence includes emails, texts, and memos recently turned over to Congress by the Department of Justice. They show how closely senior Justice Department officials and the Federal Bureau of Investigation worked with employees of Fusion GPS, a Washington-based research firm reportedly paid $1 million by Clinton operatives to dig up dirt on the Trump campaign.

They reveal that then-Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr, the fourth-highest-ranking official at DOJ, coordinated before, during and after the election with Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson, who did work for the Clinton campaign and Russians; and former British intelligence officer Christopher Steele, who was employed by Simpson.

The second line of evidence reframing the Trump Tower meeting — after the Ohr-Steele-Simpson correspondence – was first reported in June by RealClearInvestigations. It shows that, starting in March 2016, FBI confidential sources and other figures associated with Western intelligence services and the Clinton campaign approached the Trump team promising damaging information on Clinton. The Trump Tower meeting appears to have been the most successful of these approaches since it was the one instance where the Trump campaign signaled it was willing to receive incriminating information on its opponent.

These two strands of evidence – the DOJ’s collaboration with Clinton-paid researchers and efforts to connect the Trump campaign to Russia – came together in midtown Manhattan on June 9, 2016, at Trump Tower.

At the center of it all was Fusion GPS, which had two clients whose interests were served by the Trump Tower meeting: the Russians and the Clinton campaign.
Even though no evidence has emerged from the meeting of any dark conspiracy, appearances were evidently enough. In sworn Senate testimony last year, Simpson claimed the meeting corroborated one of the key claims made in the reports filed by Fusion GPS contractor Steele: “Trump and his inner circle have accepted a regular flow of intelligence from the Kremlin, including on his Democratic and other political rivals.”

Nonetheless, Simpson also testified that he had no knowledge of the meeting with Donald Trump Jr. and others until it was reported a year later. There is reason to doubt that account.

In fact, the Russian lawyer at the center of the meeting, Natalia Veselnitskaya, was his client.

She has publicly stated that she used talking points developed by Simpson for the Russian government in that discussion. Kremlin officials also posted the allegations on the Prosecutor General’s website and shared them with visiting U.S. congressional delegations.

Although the Trump campaign agreed to meet Veselnitskaya to receive dirt on Clinton, she succeeded in turning the meeting’s focus instead to the Magnitsky Act and Browder – including Simpson-generated claims accusing Browder of tax evasion and embezzlement. Citing her public acknowledgment, Browder told RealClearInvestigations, “It seems to me that Simpson wrote the talking points about me that Veselnitskaya used in her meeting with Donald Trump Jr.”

Although Browder was unaware of the Trump Tower meeting, he was so concerned about Fusion GPS’s work on behalf of Russian interests that in July 2016, he lodged a complaint with the DOJ against both Simpson and Akhmetshin, for failing to properly register as foreign agents while working for the Russian government.

Instead of raising red flags, Browder’s concerns appear to have been ignored.




https://saraacarter.com/2016-trump-...ke-a-setup-by-russian-and-clinton-operatives/



NOT THE ENTIRE ARTICLE. Rule 11.[/QUOTE]

" figures associated with Western intelligence services and the Clinton campaign approached the Trump team promising damaging information on Clinton."

And who might these folks be???????????

 

That seems inevitable at this point.

 

This is really interesting:

Nonetheless, Simpson also testified that he had no knowledge of the meeting with Donald Trump Jr. and others until it was reported a year later. There is reason to doubt that account.

In fact, the Russian lawyer at the center of the meeting, Natalia Veselnitskaya, was his client.

She has publicly stated that she used talking points developed by Simpson for the Russian government in that discussion. Kremlin officials also posted the allegations on the Prosecutor General’s website and shared them with visiting U.S. congressional delegations.

 

That'll be cause for great concern, as HE HAS NEVER BEEN INTERVIEWED BY THE FBI.

Der....ummm...duhhh..


WHERE DO LEFTISTS GET THEIR BULLSHIT?

 

Total BULLSHIT. He was with her both BEFORE, and AFTER the MEETING.


Miss this?

"She has publicly stated that she used talking points developed by Simpson for the Russian government in that discussion."


Yeah. IOW...the OP is ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

 

Donald Trump Jr. in Marathon Nine-Hour Interview …

Donald Trump Jr., the president's son, takes a bathroom break after nearly two hours before the Senate Intelligence Committee, as part of the panel’s ongoing investigation of allegations of Russia’s interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election. Trump Jr. was interviewed on Capitol Hill in Washington, D.C., on December 13.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-jr-marathon-nine-hour-interview-over-russia-election-747791

 

FBI Obtained Wiretaps of Russian Who Met with Trump Jr.

May 25, 2018 at 10:28 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard

“The FBI has obtained secret wiretaps collected by Spanish police of conversations involving Alexander Torshin, a deputy governor of Russia’s Central Bank who has forged close ties with U.S. lawmakers and the National Rifle Association, that led to a meeting with Donald Trump Jr. during the gun lobby’s annual convention in Louisville, Ky., in May 2016,” Yahoo News reports.

“José Grinda, who has spearheaded investigations into Spanish organized crime, said that bureau officials in recent months requested and were provided transcripts of wiretapped conversations between Torshin and Alexander Romanov, a convicted Russian money launderer.”

Said Grinda: “Just a few months ago, the wiretaps of these telephone conversations were given to the FBI. Mr. Trump’s son should be concerned.”



https://politicalwire.com/2018/05/25/fbi-obtained-wiretaps-of-putin-ally-who-met-with-trump-jr/

 

" figures associated with Western intelligence services and the Clinton campaign approached the Trump team promising damaging information on Clinton."

And who might these folks be???????????[/QUOTE]
Obama Swamp devotees...and Brennan contacts...

 

GASP!!!! Oh, the HUMANITY!!!!



EXECPT THAT It wasn't' Trump, Jr. who SET UP the TRUMP TOWER MEETING... it was FUSIONGPS, with the help of the Obama Adm.' THA's who should be WORRIED, and it's also why, in , yet ANOTHER, "amazing coincidence", the Grand Buffoon HAS NEVE BOTHERED TO OBTAIN THEM.

They will expose the Swamp Dwellers...not the Trumps.

 

I thought Jim Jordan was the "short timer" du jours. And sure, stealing classified docs ... well that's the very definition of patriotism Who ARE you? Eric Snowden? Putin's being REAL generous with that "patriot". I wonder how many RUbles Snowden gets for allowance. 1 US Attorney, Huber, with a dozen senior prosecutors assigned, should be quite sufficient. We'll see if Huber concurrs with ... "no reasonable prosecutor". ::

 

You've lumped me in with the Trumpsters, post my denial of the meetings occurance. Simpson didn't just work for Clinton, he worked for a Russian oligarch hit by Magnitsky.

 

Well, yet it is.

Simpson is a hired gun who specialized in the Russian oligarchy.

The Russians had hired him to hit Browder and try and prevent the Magnitsky Act from being passed.

Of course, the right is busy attacking Browder, folding him into their elaborate conspiracy theory.

It also game all of them convenient cover and a talking point to use to hide the Donald Trump Jr meeting.

 

It meant Simpson ca$hed in whatever the outcome. A Magnitsky exclusion for his client, or Russian dirt for Hillary. Browder is a criminal, and a liar. Browder claimed Magnitsky was an attorney, but Magnitsky was a reporter. Browder is wanted for tax evasion / money laundering ... just like Manafort. The theory isn't "elaborate" ... Simpson set Don jr up.

 

Yes, it is both ridiculous and far fetched. But you have peddled it for some time. A lot of it rests on Russian propoganda.

There is no evidence that Browder is a criminial, although the Russians have used their power to harass him. Repealing the Magnitsky Act is on the list of deliverables they are expecting from Trump.

 

I stand corrected on that point. You've pushed this conspiracy theory for some time. The trash blogs, having run out of other excuses, are working it now too!

And, you're one of the biggest Trumpsters on this forum. Nobody had to "lump you in". You're at the head of the line!

 

No it's not either ridiculous or fetched. Simpson had a motive for orchestrating the meeting. Either to help his Russian oligarch client, or to help his political client, Clinton. Simpson could have scored BIG if he got dirt by succeeding in getting an exclusion. Russia secured Interpol warrants by indicting Browder. You have NO idea what evidence prosecutors have against Browder.

 

Feel free to pan through my previous posts ... my PF profile is an open book. Again ... there's no theory. Veselnitskaya worked for Simpson on Magnitsky, and went to Trump Tower to talk Magnitsky. Simpson lied about having any knowledge of the meeting ... under oath. You'd have done better researching Simpson's "denial" rather than hunting for mine. :: BTW ... always nice to be at "the head of the line" ... Thanks for the props.

 

You conspiracy theory falls apart in its own telling.

The man who actually had the Russian connections, Steele, had just begun working for Fusion GPS at the time of the Trump Jr meeting.

He would have had to work fast, and in advance, in order to set this meeting up, since Goldstone made his first approach to Donald Trump Jr on June 2nd.

In order to make this work, they almost certainly would have had to work on the Russians for quite some time. Unlike the Trump campaign, the Russians fully understood the exposure that might arise if the public learned that their intelligence officials held a secret meeting with the senior campaign staff of a major US Presidential candidate in their own offices.

Trump and his people did not understand that. Indeed, they were stupid enough to think it was a great idea.

Of course, all this falls apart for the simple reason that the Trump's took the meeting.

Being approached by foreign nationals of dubious pedigree, and not only not checking them out, but getting the entire senior campaign staff on board for the meeting isn't Glen Simpson, Steele or anyone else's duplicity.

It's a reflection of the stupidity, arrogance and venal nature of Donald Trump and the people he has always surrounded himself with.

No other candidate for national office in the United States would have had his senior campaign staff attend such a meeting. Most of them would have immediately reported the approach to the FBI.

The fact is that Trump not only did neither, but engaged in a consistant pattern of regular communication with these people throughout the campaign.

And no matter how hard you try, you can't blame that on anyone other than the Trump campaign.

 

Per # 619 ... It seems like you've concocted quite the "elaborate" conspiracy theory. Veselnitskaya through Goldstone, at Simpson's direction, contacted Don jr. The premise was political dirt, exactly what Simpson specializes in. Simpson had 1 ... 2 ... or both nefarious motives for orchestrating the meeting. Don jr had 1 motive ... collect oppo research. Steele is a strawman. Simpson had a Russian client, Simpson had Shearers "pee dossier" well in advance of the meeting.

 

JJ is a short timer, Ryan made sure that he would never have the speakership...........Ryan has succeeded. Try harder to deal with Reality, that's a Winner!

 

So if Clinton was involved, presumably to assist in her winning the election, why did she not bring it all out ahead of the election? What good does it do her now?

 

What happened to your "Jordan is going down" bullshit?

Oh yeah..the DNC-funded LAIRS bailed when the checks from Perkins-Coies stopped coming.

When is the Grand Buffoon going to "indict" Veselnitskaya? Or Glenn Simpson? Or Perkins Coies?

 

it's a total fantasy that Clinton manipulated Trumpling Donald Jr. and Jared Kushner into a fake meeting for the purpose of entrapment.

It has the appearance of a plot from The Apprentice.

 

No speakership and the house is going to change real soon. You? Ryan buried JJ, deep in his own hypocrisy.